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    I'm not grounded from driving I'm grounded from social connections except for Band things, and church'ish things.

    My friends were gonna get high then drive home to their house they were just gonna hang out in the one guys room the rest of the night.

    No I wasn't smoking.

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    Well then I have no idea as to why your mom is so worried then.

    You were being responcible, and thoughtfull.

    Even though next time if something like that happens, I'd drive them to one of their houses.

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    I agree with your mom. She could get in serious trouble if she let other people's kids smoke in her house. Even if not trouble with the law she could get trouble from other parents. I don't know which is worse.
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    I'm with your mom too. While you were trying to keep your friends from doing something really stupid, had you been caught by the police, things would have got real exciting real quick for you and your parents. You would have been considered guilty by association and trying to prove otherwise would have been difficult as would trying to prove to others that your parents hadn't in some way allowed this. Your reasoning was good as far as it went but you failed to consider the position you put your parents in by doing this.
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    Quote[/b] ]Im just curious would you guys have rather had you're kids friends drive home stoned or you're kid drive them home stoned?
    ^To answer your question directly, I would rather have my kid's friends drive home stoned.

    The thing is, I would never allow my kid to have friends that smoke, drink, or do drugs. I would never raise my kid with the belief that having friends that do those things is right, let alone them doing any of those things themselves.

    Not everyone smokes and/or drinks and/or does drugs. My parents have never done drugs or smoked in their lifetimes. They drink on occasion (family party or at home), but that's it. I was raised with the belief that doing that is wrong, so I have never done drugs or smoked. So, I believe that if a parent sets a good example (whatever one thinks is "good" differs here) and enforces discipline, then their childern will come out okay.

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    Hmmm.... I believe that "good" and "bad" are just words here.

    It is my opinion that drugs are neither "good" nor "bad". They are one of the biggest grey areas in life. What they are is what you make of them. I believe that it's bad to abuse drugs, but it's not good or bad to use them. It is my opinion that use turns into abuse when you take more than you know you should just for the hell of it, or when you forget that some drugs can and will screw up your life. Some people use drugs as a spiritual practice. Ever heard of Ayahuasca, Mescaline, Toad Venom (5-MeO-DMT), Salvia divinorum? It's neither good nor bad. It just is. It exists.

    Another fantastic example is cocaine. The natives of SA used Cocaine as a stimulant, similar to coffee, and to cure altitude sickness. They would chew the leaves and that was that. It was no worse that coffee. Then one day a scientist isolated the alkaloid cocaine, and all of the sudden it becomes an evil substance that will screw you over a hundred times...No. It's not the substance in this scenario, it's the dosage. What's worse than cocaine? Crack, or Freebase cocaine. Someone wasn't happy enough with Cocaine so they synthesized a smokeable form, further abusing the substance. Now we have a substance that is a chemical frankenstein, nothing like nature intended. Cocaine was originally made illegal because of racism, not because people thought it was evil.

    Look at GHB. Originally it was a body builders supplement. Now that people are selfish and abuse it, it's the date violent act drug. Not everyone who uses it uses it to violent act, believe it or not some people take it themselves. Did you know that GHB and DMT are in your body this very second? Of course the amount is miniscule, on the scale of micrograms, but it's there just the same. Something kind of cool to think about.

    Look at Ecstacy. Originally it was a theraputic drug. Then one day, people got greedy and stupid and started overdosing. They ruined it for the rest of us that are responsible.

    I believe MJ was illegalized to keep a few white rich men in power. I hope my friend chimes in on the MJ history, because it's not my area of expertise.

    In western society some people have a problem where they think drugs are "evil". They give drugs a persona. How can they be evil? How can they be good? They are inanimate objects. What they are is how you use it. They can be heaven or hell, agony and ecstacy, or they can do nothing at all untill you combine them with an MAOI. All the glitters is cold. Remember that.


    I am in no way advocating drug use. I do, however, think that it's important to understand the history and chemical nature of any particular drug before you pass judgement.

    If you ever get a chance, watch Hooked: Illegal drugs and how they got that way. It's on the History channel often and very informative. It's a series of documentaries covering opiates, MJ, club drugs, etc.

    Auctually, I just looked it up on historychannel.com It comes on this December 11th. Oddly enough, it's about cocaine this month.

    "Derived from South America's coca leaf, cocaine was touted as a cure-all in the late 19th century and was the secret ingredient in many medicines and elixirs such as Coca-Cola. But cocaine's allure quickly diminished as racism entered the picture--the concept of the "cocaine-crazed Negro" even led police to strengthen the caliber of their guns from .32 to .38. We'll see how, though it was outlawed in 1914, its popularity soared in the 1980s and '90s and gave birth to a deadlier form--crack."


    Just to reiterate, I do not in any way advocate drug use.

    I'm particularly proud of this post. It's close to my heart.

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    it's not wether it's "right" or "wrong" to take a specific drug. illegal drugs are just that, illegal, and by you giving your friends a place to burn one, you inadvertantly put your parents, and every possession you and they have in jeopardy. smartest thing for you to do is to let them find their own place to smoke up, and just find something else to do. don't even offer them the ride home. i know it's tough to do it, but you have to, just to keep yourself out of trouble.

    for the record, i understand your reasoning behind your actions, but i agree with your mom on this one..

    peace, and stay outta trouble!
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    Or give them some money for a taxi. In reality, if they can't secure a safe mode of transportaion, maybe they shouldn't smoke. By safe I mean a way that won't get them or you in trouble, like a taxi or a bus.

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