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    Arsenic and Trans fat are not the same.. You're comparing Nightshade to frenchfries.

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    The FDA has not banned trans fat due to a link to heart disease, the scientific community has agreed that trans fats are strongly linked to heart disease (New England Journal of Medicine). However, the FDA now requires food labels to list the amount of trans fat in their food products.

    Consumers have no idea how much trans fat is in their restaurant food...In my opinion, they should be given the trans fat levels information in the menu...it's impossible for people to make a choice when they don't have any options. Or the trans fat should be banned.

    The number one reason the restuarant industry uses trans fat, as opposed to vegetable oils or butter, is because they are CHEAPER. I think it's high time the food industry stops compromising people's health, and find alternatives to trans fat. Heck, even KFC could do it!

    Wikipedia has a very good article on trans fat BTW: Trans Fat

    Just my opinion.

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    The alternative to trans fat is saturated fat, such as animal fats or tropical oils. I remember the big crusade against coconut oil and palm oil that led to them eventually being replaced by trans fat. It was a windfall for the US' processed food industry because trans fats are cheaper to buy and store and our agribusiness giants were happy because they control the production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (JustLikeAPill @ Dec. 06 2006,9:23)]Arsenic and Trans fat are not the same.. You're comparing Nightshade to frenchfries.
    In equal quantities they aren't nearly the same, of course. The lethal dose of arsenic is a fraction of a gram.

    But in proportional quantities that do effectively the same amount of damage to the body, which is really the lesser evil?

    I'm trying to point out how our decisions are influenced by stigma vs. familiarity.

    Were they overstepping their bounds when they took cocaine out of Coca-Cola at the turn of the last century? What if 100 years from now trans fats are just a similar amusing factoid. "They put that in their food back then? Were they crazy?" What's familiar now may have stigma in the future... and maybe for good reason.

    Just trying to temper knee-jerk reactions with a little perspective. Whichever number you guys pick from the list, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be the same for both arsenic and trans fats.

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    ^^^ Good response.

    I think Transfats are EVIL. They are a man made oil that is just horible for you. It is hard to find food at the grodery store that doesn't have it in it. I wish it was bannded all together. It is not natural. There are very few natural transfats, and IIRC from reading about its proposal, it doesn't ban natural trans fats. Just the hydrigenated man made transfats.

    And to think they would rather not ban this man made crap and ban a totaly natural plant like MJ. BLAHH
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    NYC is a city of ban-happy socialists with a leaning towards big-brother gov't. Take it from someone who used to live there and still works there.
    As for the ban, gov't shouldn't have that kinda authority. But then again restaurants should have the social responsibility to not serve customers dangerous foodstuffs...
    I don't appreciate the gov't banning more things, taking away our freedoms, but on the other hand I am glad that the next time I get McD's fries they won't be AS unhealthy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (quogue @ Dec. 06 2006,12:53)]NYC is a city of ban-happy socialists with a leaning towards big-brother gov't. Take it from someone who used to live there and still works there.
    As for the ban, gov't shouldn't have that kinda authority. But then again restaurants should have the social responsibility to not serve customers dangerous foodstuffs...
    I don't appreciate the gov't banning more things, taking away our freedoms, but on the other hand I am glad that the next time I get McD's fries they won't be AS unhealthy..
    I'd take social responsibility over enforcement any day. I wish we lived in a world where it existed in a greater capacity. Until then I don't really mind being protected from those who have no guilt about the harm they do to the world in the name of profit. They're the real enemy. Protection from physical harm is as basic and fundamental as law gets... if that's not reason enough to have laws I'm not sure what is.

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    If you think at all the food industry will somehow regulate itself, then read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair. Sometimes the goverment needs to step in with a ban.

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