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This just in: Religious Debates - Moot Point

It seems that the US and its allies are working hard to cover the planet in a film of depleted uranium dust which, if it reaches a sufficient thickness, will eliminate all cause for disagreement among humans because we will all be cancer laiden, bloated, - female reproductive bits - , infected mutants with nothing to fall back on but our own festering sores-- Anyone heard the latest on D.U. levels in the upper atmosphere? Happy day!

(that's hilarious, I typed the adjective for something covered in pus and the language monitor system put "female reproductive bits", no porno terminology going on here)
 
What?
 
My geiger counter is still ticking the regular tock.
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Edit:
I just realized how tired I am. Post made no sense and had no point. BRILLIANT!

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Well that's good to know, about us using depleted uronium munitions on civilian populations
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I remembered my point! Some of the arguments being made are... Substandard.

This just in: Areas with high population have the majority of CASES OF CANCER!

Well, yah! lol It's called probabilities. :p

Eh, I've yet to look at it all, but from what I've seen, at least some of this is anti-nuclear garbage.
 
It could be anti-nuc. garbage Est-- I am not a nobel scientist on the case either. I strongly feel it is an item of some concern though. I think we are being very irresponsible with our use of D.U. although I recognize that it's name is a loaded word that's easy to point at for bringing a reaction.
 
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Quote[/b] ]It could be anti-nuc. garbage Est-- I am not a nobel scientist on the case either. I strongly feel it is an item of some concern though. I think we are being very irresponsible with our use of D.U. although I recognize that it's name is a loaded word that's easy to point at for bringing a reaction.

DU weapons are something that I don't know an awful lot about. Needless to say they don't sound like too much fun, but by clicking on a few links on the article I start to notice an overwhelming bias of anti-nuclear material.

Now let me draw the line here: Nuclear weapons are one thing, but then some of the sources go in to information on nuclear power plants and draw some far fetched conclusions.

And I can pretty easily find some sources disagreeing with the study.

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Quote[/b] ]This article focuses on concern over the use of depleted uranium in tank-piercing bullets used by the U.S. and British militaries. The U.S. and British militaries have been taking fire for their use of tank-piercing bullets made from depleted uranium, a weakly radioactive manufacturing by-product of nuclear fuel and warheads. Critics have charged that breathing airborne debris, created when the bullets strike armor, can cause leukemia, other cancers, and birth defects. A federal study now suggests that such concerns are exaggerated. Government tests, released last October, quantified the spread of uranium dust from a bullet's impact. Albert C. Marshall of Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque used these data to calculate battlefield health risks from depleted-uranium shells. The nuclear engineer's calculations, released in late July by the national lab, indicate only small risks of leukemia or birth defects, even among the troops who breathed heavy amounts of uranium-tainted dust.

So while this is only a preliminary analysis, I call BS. But we'll see. I'll do some more prodding around in to DU weapons.

However, when it comes to nuclear power arguments, that I can fight.
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How about the fact that studies have found that there's more radiation surrounding coal power plants than nuclear power plants?

Thanks, but I like my nuclear waste solidified (projections show that it'll take a million years to disolve 10% of the mass of solidified nuclear waste in the off chance that it gets exposed to water,) stored in a welded, stainless steel barrel, not in my air!

And while I'd like to keep the arguments separate, the source article does not.
 
My mistake to pull a random source article from the net. I pulled it to raise the issue for discussion without looking at the specific agenda of the publishing group. Couldn't agree with you more about nuc. power - if we don't go that way soon we will have bigger problems than any can imagine (I think). M y father recently designed a thorium reactor core that (on paper anyway) effectively consumes its fuel rods in the chain reaction of starting the new ones going. It could be a near zero waste nuc. reactor. That's a separate discussion though. The really important point here is one that you brought to the table. If you look at the history of data from Sandia Labs, I think you will find that if they are admitting a minor link between D.U. and leukemia & birth defects, then there is a serious problem. Those scientists will not let onto a problem unless they are absolutely one hundred percent sure it's a problem. They have jobs to think about.
 
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Thats like saying that 70 percent of Minority arrests (specific cultural back grounds that stick out more than others) are racist, even though the City is 70 percent minority! (with the cancer thing)

Even though thats not really a minority when you look at that.
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  • #11
Which city did that data come from Nep. AK? I'm failing to see how you could connect the possible racism of 70% of arrests of a certain ethnic/cultural persuasion with the demographics of a city. That's precisely the kind of fuzzy math that I am trying to make sure is not involved with this possible global issue. Unless you are saying it's more justifiable to be a racist thug of a cop if you are in a city with a larger percentage of black/hispanic/asian populations. I can't really get your connection with the discussion here. Are you just coming into this with blind antagonism? This is potentially a bonafied issue for the entire world to consider. I was bringing it to the table (in my sardonic way) for peoples responses. I think we only need responses that address the topic though, rather than red herrings about race issues. Thanks--
 
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[b said:
Quote[/b] (nepenthes_ak @ Dec. 09 2006,12:41)]Thats like saying that 70 percent of Minority arrests (specific cultural back grounds that stick out more than others) are racist, even though the City is 70 percent minority! (with the cancer thing)

Even though thats not really a minority when you look at that.
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Thats like saying.....
 
  • #13
Is this a freudian slip? Someone has a problem with the idea that African Americans and Hispanics get profiled unfairly by the "justice system" in our society. Maybe you should do some homework. How often do they ask to search your car when you get pulled over? (This precludes the giant assumption that you are a white mutt like me)
 
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eek!
When I hear something like that a cringe.

I always wished I was latino....
 
  • #15
you're so stupid! don't things so seriously! it wasn't meant to be taken literally!
 
  • #16
Ahh, you're right, I was in perhaps too serious a mood last night-- You need hone your skills at name calling though, "stupid" kind of sounds like a little kid whose angry at his mommy.
 
  • #17
No name calling. Back on topic.
 
  • #18
we use depleated Uranium in weapons for one reason and one reason only.........it has nothing to do with it having any radioactivity..........it has to do with the fact its EXTRAMLY heavy. bullets made out of it dont have much of a problem going through tank armor. so they can throw say 100 bullets out of an AC-10 at a tank and break it down, prolly costing the tax payers ~$15,000 or so or they can launch a missle which costs half a million or more.

it takes a shaped charge to go through tank armor out of a rocket. one couple of pound DP bullet will do the same thing. i VERY highly doubt that "waste" from shooting DP bullets at tanks can send enough uranium into the air to affect the UK. if that were the case i should have died from lead poisoning along time ago from throwing cast lead bullets agains steel targets hundreds of times in the course of a day. there is no way you can put enough of that into the air to affect another country several thousand miles away when the US forces who handle the stuff day in and day out arent dropping like flies from radiation poisoning.
 
  • #19
A-10 warthogs are my favorite planes. They are the toughest planes flying.


How would you like to see this thing coming at you firing bullets the size of old milk bottles.

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  • #20
lol yeah, saw video of one that landed after it had been through a rough patch of anti aircraft fire...............the thing had basketball sized holes through the wings and elsewhere but still had no problms getting back to base and landing.............thats one tough SOB
 
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