(scottychaos @ Jan. 01 2007,11:40)
(ktulu @ Jan. 01 2007,8:57)
These are the reasons that former Attonery Genral Ramsey Clark believes that George W. should be impeached. I think he makes a pretty good case.
1. Seizing power to wage wars of aggression in defiance of the U.S. Constitution, the U.N. Charter and the rule of law; carrying out a massive assault on and occupation of Iraq, a country that was not threatening the United States, resulting in the death and maiming of tens of thousands of Iraqis, and hundreds of U.S. G.I.s.
ok, thats a good start..
you listed the "crimes"..but thats part 1 only.
now you only need to:
2. prove they actually happened.
3. prove they ARE crimes worthy of impeachment.
without that, your list is just a bunch of made-up opinions.
I have no compelling reasons to believe anything on that list actually happened..there is no proof yet.
anyone can just make stuff up..
(as we know with the disproved "the election was stolen" fiction.)
you arent done yet..please continue.
You dont seem to understand the process of impeachment scot.
First we dont have to prove they happened at this point, only that there is sufficent evidence to believe they MAY have happened. If this is true then a process very similar to a criminal trial where if found guilty he would then be removed from office. Impeachment refers both to the trial and to the actual act of removing someone from office. I personally feel that articles of impeachment should be brought up and the president should be forced to answer to the people (through their represenatives) for his actions. Is this too much to ask?
Secondly the grounds for impeachment are "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." --US Constitution. Article II, Sec. 4.
This means violation of International law, like invaiding a country on false pretenses or waging an agressive war are impeachable offenses. Usurping the power of the constitution through the patriot act also impeachable.
Oh and lastly for not believing any of it, do you live in a cave? One with out tv, radio, newspaper, or internet connection (im guessing you must telepathically post here)? Because alot of these events were well covered by the media. Also if you go to the capital you can read an official copy of the patriot act, because im sure you will say any other copy is just "made up" by someone.
There now that I have done a great deal of the thinking for you and informed you of how your constitution works I will end for now.
p.s. I do not conclude the election was stolen. I believe what happened was a result of a flawed system, however that is a completely differnt debate.