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    (ktulu @ Jan. 01 2007,12:46)
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    First we dont have to prove they happened at this point, only that there is sufficent evidence to believe they MAY have happened.

    ok then, where is the sufficient evidence that it MAY have happened?

    If all these supposed crimes have taken place, and if "sufficeint evidence" exists to begin the impeachment process..then why isnt it happening?

    maybe its not happening because..there IS no sufficient evidence?
    and all these supposed "crimes" are in fact pure fiction?

    still waiting for:

    2. prove they actually happened.
    (or "sufficient evidence" that they happened..thats fine too)

    you still havent shown me anything to make me believe you didnt just make the whole list up out of thin air..

    Scot

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    Canada? A threat? lol. I'd move there if it wasn't so cold!


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    Scotty I applaud you. That was very good, and I couldn't have said it any better myself.

    I do not give a rip what anyone says. Saddam had WMDs at one point in time, AND there was sufficient evidence that he still had them. For Christ sakes he gassed some Curds with some of his WMDs. Why do you think the crackhead was hung?

    It is very easy for outsiders looking in to call our system flawed too. Ever take a look at your own sometime? I do not think anyone is perfect and every system is not perfect. Yet I do think our system is pretty good. Not perfect mind you, but good. There are some things I would LOVE to have changed, but they will never happen since the people that need to vote for it will never vote themselves term limits.

    Saddam needed to be taken out period. We might have jumped at it too soon because OBL is still loose, but heck he is on his deathbed anyway. Kidney failure ya know. That can be a really B@#%h. You start getting all Jandus and stuff. Really hard to do things when you have all stuff building up in your blood.

    I wonder if those that are urging for impeachment with no proof of any "crime" can be tried for conspiracy to commit treason? LMAO

    Now I know I come off as a hard right wing guy sometimes, but Bush was the better of the two evils. Gore was a joke and still is. Kerry wasn't much better. Edwards is scary, and Hilary is the witch from Hades. I do like Obama though.

    I am POed at the republicans because they Piggy backed the on line gambling bill on the back of some other bill that needed to be passed. That SUCKED! I would really like a multi party system instead of just a two party system. I know your going to say that there are more than two parties, but the way it is setup there really is only effectively two parties. Not like over in the UK. Even though I do not think they are doing an effective job over there, I do like ow that system is setup. We need a hybrid between the two.

    Now onto those who do not believe in capital punishment. ARE YOU NUTS? If you have proven someone committed a crime worthy of Capital punishment why would we need to pay to keep them alive for the rest of their life? Give them free medical care and free food? Air conditioned cells and free TV? We could be using that money to help get the homeless people off the booze and teach them a skill. Since I do not believe throwing money at them does any good, but throwing education and dependance assistance could potentially work. If you do the crime you should pay the price. Why do you think we have so much crime anyways?? Because the criminals know if they are caught they are going to go to jail where life is easy and they are in the AC while the taxpayers foot the bill. We didn't have all that much crime when the system was full of hard behinds. The bleeding heart leftists have dumbed woosied the punishments so much that they are not deterrents anymore. Heck I believe they should have to work for their food, and live in tents like the one Sheriff in Az did. Make them wear pink cloths and work for their food. They also live in tents. But nooooooo many people have given the dang criminals more rights than the hard working civilized person, and we wonder why the crime rate has risen. Because you can murder someone and get life in prison where all your health care and food is free for the rest of their miserable life. And lets face it prison is better accommodations than some of those folks have in the real world. No wonder. If we could cut off hands for steeling something and scar a person's back up with a cane for vandalism and other petty offenses we would have less crime. We pay too much money to keep someone in prison when they should be working for their food and earning there cloths.
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    He did not gas people with WMDs. We are talking nukes here.
    We have insiders calling out system flawed! The EC sucks!


    As far as capital punishment, I don't support it. If we kill we are no better than they are. I believe that life in prison is faaar worse than death. You give me the choice between life in prison and death and i'll choose death in a second. I do support the medical care and food and AC is part of living. I don't think we should give them TV though. The pink thing sounds pretty homophobic to me. What, you're supposed to be ashamed to wear pink? WTH?

    Don't work don't eat? What, are we going to starve them? I believe that our BS laws are what is filling up the prisons and wasting money. Some laws ruin more lives than they save. You know the ones.


    As far as scarring people and cutting off hands... I believe that's what our islamic extremist friends do.
    An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

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    (scottychaos @ Jan. 02 2007,1:11)
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    (ktulu @ Jan. 01 2007,12:46)
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    First we dont have to prove they happened at this point, only that there is sufficent evidence to believe they MAY have happened.

    ok then, where is the sufficient evidence that it MAY have happened?

    If all these supposed crimes have taken place, and if "sufficeint evidence" exists to begin the impeachment process..then why isnt it happening?

    maybe its not happening because..there IS no sufficient evidence?
    and all these supposed "crimes" are in fact pure fiction?

    still waiting for:

    2. prove they actually happened.
    (or "sufficient evidence" that they happened..thats fine too)

    you still havent shown me anything to make me believe you didnt just make the whole list up out of thin air..

    Scot

    ok fine. I find these self explanitory, but I will respond. If you want exact specific details well your not going to get them because I dont have that much spare time on my hands nor am I getting paid to prosecute the president.

    1. The invasion of Iraq based on "intelligence" that turned out to be wrong, and which the president has never actully produced for the public to see. Therefore making the invasion based on false pretence and regaurdless invading another country is illegal under international law unless they attack you first or are an imminent threat, which Iraq was not. Unless you dont believe that the war is going on in Iraq, unless of course you have been there personally, otherwise it could all be "made up out of thin air". I forget that tens of thousands of deaths are probably "pure fiction" in your book since you didnt see all of the bodies they must not exist.
    2. Again where is this evidence of weapons of mass destruction?
    3. Our military attacked civilian areas like street side restaurants to try to kill Saddam, but instead killed only civilians. Also the multiple civilian installations that were destroyed by our military with no attempt to control it by our president. Also supplying bombs to Isreal while they droped them on civilians (which was declared a war crime by every country in the UN but the US) should also be sufficent evidence.
    4. Again do you live in a cave?
    5. See patriot act and military commissons act of 2006 (suspends writ Habeas Corpus)
    6. Again where are these WMD programs?
    7. Again this illegal war
    8. military commissions act of 2006
    9. military commissions act of 2006
    10. military commissions act of 2006
    11. I will admit I have no concrete proof of this point, but evidence from Abu Ghraib should show evidence of misconduct in our treatment of prisoners.
    12. self explanitory
    13. patriot act and military commissons act of 2006
    14. patriot act
    15. patriot act (there is no legal defintion of terrorist hence the problem here)
    16. patriot act and military commissons act of 2006
    17. self explaintory
    18. He withdrew us from the international criminal court system and broke a treaty with Russia with out authorization from the people that alone is reason to remove him.


    As for why it hasnt happened yet, do you really think the republicans would have removed him when he they had run of the entire government as long as he was in power. Party loyalty unfortunatly has become more important than the good of the country. Hopefully our new democratic congress will take this issue up as their first order of business when they take over.
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    He did not gas people with WMDs. We are talking nukes here.


    Definition of Weapon of Mass Destruction:

    Dictionary: a weapon that kills or injures civilian as well as military personnel (nuclear and chemical and biological weapons)

    Google: Any weapon or device that is intended, or has the capability, to cause death or serious bodily injury to a significant number of people through the release, dissemination, or impact of toxic or poisonous chemicals or their precursors, a disease organism, or radiation or radioactivity.

    Wikipedia: Weapon of mass destruction (WMD) is a term used to describe a munition with the capacity to indiscriminately kill large numbers of living beings. The phrase broadly encompasses several areas of weapon synthesis, including nuclear, biological, chemical (NBC) and, increasingly, radiological weapons.

    Therefor, using gas to kill people as was done = use of a WMD.

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    I just assumed we were talking about the 2004 election, because everyone knows that election was stolen as well..
    so BOTH the 2000 and the 2004 elections were stolen by the republicans? of course..why not..if you are going lie and claim one was stolen (nevermind those pesky facts) why not go all-out and claim BOTH were stolen?


    Without taking sides, the problem was that the Supreme Court went AGAINST all precedence. They had established a precedence that had been upheld time after time. But then, all of a sudden, for no reason, they not only decided that there'd be no recound, but they anounced the winner. Now, if I were on the losing end of a piece of legistlation that went against established precedence, was arbitrary, ill defined, and without any sort of apparent reason, I'd be mad, too.

    If you think I'm a crackpot, pick up a history text, look it up on the web, whatever you like.

    In fact, the decision was so "far out" that you never hear it mentioned in legal cases. It seems like everyones a bit ashamed of it. lol

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    I disagree with people who say the Bush administration was unprepared after ignoring warnings such as that memo. They responded with stunning speed - ramming through their wish list of Patriot Act, government reorganization, tax policies, etc. They definitely were ready to act.


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    Oh hell, we KNEW he had chemical weapons. We were after nukes! Or rather The Bush was... Or rather he SAID he was.

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    Of course we knew Iraq had WMDs at one time - we helped Hussein get them and looked the other way when he used them. When Hussein was no longer of any use to us, we responded to his invasion of Kuwait by destroying his military capability in Bush Sr.'s Gulf War and the subsequent sanctions.

    By the time of Bush Jr.'s Iraq invasion, Iraq was no threat to anyone outside its borders. Bush distracted the nation from real terrorists to give the Neocons the Iraq invasion they'd been lusting for, creating many more terrorists and weakening the US. While creating a carnage. The Bush administration misled the nation and it's disgraceful to accept it, let alone defend it.
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