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    note: tuatara's have been around in one form or another for 200 million years........please see my crocodilian argument compined with the above. the species is destained for extinction but has survived just fine till the present except on remote islands
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ] every continent but antactica and europe and they have only been out of europe for maybe the last 5 million years
    See, that's hard evidence. Global warming has alredy driven them from europe. Oh god it's already started.






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    LMAO.......actually OZZY i would say thats global cooling that did it.......last major ice age was the final thing that kicked them out......global warming should let them repopulate Europe
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    Can you imagine crocodiles swiming in the Thames River in London? That would be so cool.


    But if Global warming disrupts the jet stream then the UK would have an sub-artic climate.

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    well i said Europe not England...crocs in tha canals of Venice maybe?
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    Speaking of crocodilians, how many diffent places do Alligators live and how many different spiecies of alligators are there.

    I'll give a hint, the answer to both questions are the same.

    And you're not allowed to answer rattler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]isolated location and general long lives current birth rates of 25% females or less probally have very little effect long term on the species and more than likely, infact almost definatly have happened in the past. i would think rats on the island are much more of a worry that current temps anyways.

    using isolated populations on remote islands is a very poor way to attempt to win an arguement as these populations are considered fragile even without man in the picture.
    It is absolutely not, because isolated populans are exactly the ones threatened by global warming- human made or habitat island. Their fragility is their problem, and global warming could be a the thing that tips the balance.. Furthermore, you have no evedence that that would have very little affect on the species- experts say that it will absolutely have an effect.

    Plus, crocadilians are primitive as well, so by defult you just destroyed your own argument.

    Here's a history lesson: Tuataras have always thrived in NZ because they inhabited the main islands. This allowed them considerable range to move elsewhere when conditions were unfavorable. So they were NOT going to " critter that was for all intents and purposes destained to be wiped out even if man wasnt in the picture? ". Man caused them to be extinct on the main isles to begin with! They had planty of oppertunities to move to different habitats... there. The island populations are mear remminants of what was a poplation in the millions 300 years ago... so there we go, they were not going to go extinct because man was in the picture. If you don't know anything about tuataras, dont structure your agument about them.
    that makes no logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Tuatara once lived throughout the mainland of New Zealand but have survived in the wild only on 32 offshore islands. These islands are characteristically free of rodents and other introduced mammalian predators which are known to prey on eggs and young as well as compete for invertebrate food. The islands are usually occupied by colonies of breeding seabirds that contribute to the fertility and hence the richness of invertebrate and lizard fauna needed by tuatara.

    Recent advances in both the ability to eradicate rodents from islands and the captive incubation and raising of tuatara have allowed the species to be translocated to a further four islands they presumably inhabited in the past.
    http://www.doc.govt.nz/templates/page.aspx?id=33163 for more info
    that makes no logic

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