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    I hope they let him do it

    I thought ALL hemp was industrial. I had no idea it wasn't. Where do they grow it if not on farms?

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    Lol, this little comedy/subtle windows ad thing is great to watch if your stoned (which you shouldn't be children! don't break the law!)

    http://Clearification.com

    I could watch that all day lol

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    Well for the record Hemp and MJ are the same genus. It is just that over time plants were bread for various reasons. Now the plants used for industrial hemp are substantially lower in THC than those varieties used for the "high" They technically are the same plants though just bred out for different uses.


    HEMP vs. MARIJUANA

    The word "hemp" is English for a number of varieties of the cannabis plant, particularly the varieties like "industrial hemp" that were bred over time for industrial uses such as fuel, fiber, paper, seed, food, oil, etc.

    The term "marijuana" is of Spanish derivation, and was primarily used to describe varieties of cannabis that were more commonly bred over time for medicinal and recreational purposes, like cannabis indica , and certain strains of cannabis sativa.

    In fact, when all forms of hemp were made illegal in the early part of the last century, it was used in the majority of the prescription drugs then sold in America. That was certainly no accident. Those who favor the use of what is now called "medical marijuana" recognize these strong medicinal qualities.

    But marijuana and the medical or recreational varieties of cannabis are not really at issue today, because science readily allows us to distinguish them from industrial hemp by simple tests for the huge difference in the potency of the plants, i.e. the percentage of the psychotropic ingredient: delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol ("THC"), the active psychotropic ingredient found in the leaves and flowers of the female plant, but not in her seeds or stems.

    Two cannabinoids are preponderant in cannabis: THC, the psychoactive ingredient, and CBD, which is an antipsychoactive ingredient. Marijuana is high in the psychoactive cannabinoid, THC, and low in the antipsychoactive cannabinoid, CBD. The reverse is true for industrial hemp; when hemp was or is bred for its desirable industrial qualities, the percentage of THC is minimal, while the percentage of CBD is high.

    While marijuana has a potency range of 3% to 20% by dry weight of THC, industrial hemp is generally defined as having less than 1.0% THC, and the normal range is under 0.5%. These THC levels are so low that no one could get high from smoking it. To receive a standard psychoactive dose would require a person to power-smoke 10-12 hemp cigarettes over an extremely short period of time. The large volume and high temperature of vapor, gas and smoke would be almost impossible for a person to withstand.

    Moreover, hemp contains a relatively high percentage of another cannabinoid, CBD, that actually blocks the marijuana high. Hemp, it turns out, is not only not marijuana; it could be called "antimarijuana."

    Feral hemp, or "ditchweed", is a remnant of the industrial hemp once grown on more than 400,000 acres by U.S. farmers. It also contains extremely low levels of THC, as low as .05 percent. It has no drug value, but does offer important environmental benefits as a nesting habitat for birds. About 99 percent of the "marijuana" being eradicated by the federal government-at great public expense-is this harmless ditchweed.

    So industrial hemp or ditchweed simply does not have enough THC for any practical use as a recreational drug, and anyone who grows industrial hemp will certainly have to suffer the legal consequences of trying to grow marijuana. But that too is very unlikely for a number of reasons:

    Industrial Hemp is grown quite differently from marijuana. Hemp plants are cultivated inches apart to produce plants with tall stalks, while pot plants are short and spaced a few feet apart to produce bushy, THC-rich flowers and leaves. Moreover, they are harvested at different times.

    Marijuana cultivators also try to cull male plants to prevent fertilization of the female plant. Unfertilized females produce more THC, making it attractive as a drug (sinsemilla). In contrast, hemp production typically seeks fertilization to produce seeds.

    And cross-pollination between hemp plants and marijuana plants would significantly reduce the potency of the marijuana plant. If hemp does pollinate any nearby marijuana, genetically, the result will always be lower-THC marijuana, not higher-THC hemp. "The pot crop would always get weaker," Mahlberg said. If hemp is grown outdoors, marijuana will not be grown close by to avoid producing lower-grade marijuana. A pot grower would fear the inevitable pollen from hemp cultivation in a mixed plot, and would not hide his plant in industrial hemp fields.

    Likewise, extracting THC from industrial hemp and further refining it to eliminate the preponderance of CBD would require such an expensive, hazardous, and time-consuming process that it is extremely unlikely anyone would ever attempt it, rather than simply obtaining high-THC marijuana instead.

    [Also see: www.votehemp.com/PDF/myths_facts.pdf to review: Hemp and Marijuana -- Myths and Realities by Dr. Dave West, who holds a Ph.D. in Plant Breeding from the University of Minnesota and has spent 18 years as a commercial corn breeder, and, since 1993 he has served as an advisor to the emerging hemp industry regarding industrial hemp germplasm.]

    All of this goes to show why, in countries where hemp is grown as an agricultural crop, the police have experienced no such burdens. In fact, there are over 30 nations on the planet currently growing industrial hemp. These include Canada, Australia, England, France, Germany, Austria, Spain, Russia, and China.

    The regulations established in these countries are simple: contract production, aerial ASCS type maps of fields, only government certified low THC seed, pre- and post-harvest field surveys, field checks on THC levels and an open field policy. And they do not have an increased problem with prosecution for marijuana use. So legalizing hemp would not burden local police forces.

    This explains why the National Conference of State Legislatures (NCSL) recently adopted a resolution strongly urging the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and the Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) to collaboratively develop and adopt an official definition of industrial hemp.

    This also explains why legislation to deregulate industrial hemp and/or allow scientific study by state universities is pending or passed in over 20 states:

    Bills Passed: ND, HI, MN, IL, MD -- Resolutions Passed: AK, CA, KY, MT, VA, VT
    Legislation In Process: SD, IA, ME, NH, NM, OR, TN -- Voter Initiatives: AK, CO, MI




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    All material on this website 2001, Arizona Industrial Hemp Council
    Might want to check out this website too. Rather interesting. http://www.freedomdomain.com/hemppot.htm

    From the article.

    The many benefits of Hemp include, but are not limited, to the following : Hemp utilizes the sun more efficiently than
    virtually any other plant on the planet, reaching 10-20 feet or more in a single short growing season. It can even be grown in
    almost any climate or soil condition on Earth. Hemp is softer than cotton, warmer than cotton, more water absorbant than
    cotton, has three times the tensile strength of cotton and many times more durable. 50% of all chemicals used in American
    agriculture today are used on cotton and Hemp requires no chemicals or pesticides to grow




    The Dutch word for CANNABIS is CANVAS


    Another good site. http://www.naihc.org/hemp_informatio...t/hemp.mj.html
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    As far as man-made, where do you draw the line? Coke is natural. Lsd is. Mescaline is. Psilocybin is, heroin is.

    and so are many deadly toxins, too. Oh wait they are natural so i guess it is OK. er...not
    that makes no logic

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    and so are many deadly toxins, too. Oh wait they are natural so i guess it is OK. er...not
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    as i have stated before you cant legislate against stupidity. if a person is informed about the risks of something and still chooses to do it it is their right.........no different if its a drug or jumping out of a plane or attatching ones self to a rubberband and jumping off a bridge........you know the risks there for you have no one to blaim but your self if something bad happens
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    but this assumes someone is informed of the risks of something, and that is not always the case
    that makes no logic

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    Well Finch I don't think there is a sole out there hat hasn't heard all their fill about the "dangers" of MJ. The fact of the mater is that THC and MJ is harmless. Period. All the anti-drug BS about MJ is false and propaganda against the "drug".

    I agree with Rattler that the government should not be able to tell me what I cannot do in my home.

    I am surprised the Bush bashers and those against big oil have not partnered up with the MJ movement. Since Hemp could reduce our need for fossil fuel oil. Make biodegradable plastic and paper that requires less chemical to grow, bleach, and produce. Not to mention all the other host of things the plant ans seeds are useful for.

    I dunno how many people read the pages I linked to, but cannabis was the second most prescribed substance before its banning in 1937. It was in almost every prescribed med of those days. The AMA did not realize the connection of Hemp and cannabis to MJ. And it seems that a lot of folks still do not see the connection, but Hemp and Marijuana are both cannabis plants.
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    but this assumes someone is informed of the risks of something, and that is not always the case
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    goes back to the stupidity issue, if someone chooses not to get themselves informed it is there own fault. if some one chooses to take an unknown substance at a party and think its harmless, well thats Darwinism isnt it? population control is what it sounds like to me
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