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    no one has yet had a good answer to my question. You cannot run a policy on the assumption that people know what they need to know. are all those 'dangers' fabricated? To tell these wouldnt we have to educate on the harfmfull effects of these drugs.... oh wait, but that would be anti drug?! So confusing...

    What im saying is most of the information you guys say people need to know was put out by the war on drugs in the first place.
    that makes no logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustLikeAPill View Post
    Well... I'm sure those of inclined to break the law will not listen to the "man" but the problem at hand is "the man" has no right to tell us what we can and can not snort or smoke or inject. What we do in our own homes is our own business. If I want to wake up in a pool of what I HOPE is my own filth, that's my problem, not my next door neighbors.
    I disagree. Imagine for a second that crack, meth and heroin was legalized.

    Do you know how much crime would increase? You can't tell me that legalizing these addictive drugs that completely ruin peoples lives, even ones not using the drug, is a good idea.

    People have been killed by addicts trying to get money for their fix.

    And I don't know of any addict that has quit and beleives the feeling was worth the pain inflicted on them or others around them.

    My neighbor across the street is a crack head that deals and is personally responsible for over 20 break ins around my neighborhood and regularly knocks on me and my neighbor's door looking for a couple bucks so he can "take the bus to work". Its sad that this jackass always seems immune to the law and the reasons for his actions are entirely to support his substance addicted lifestyle. And its never going to stop until he kills someone or someone is waiting in their house with a gun and blows his head off.

    These extracts/chemicals should NOT be made available for legal use by the American people unless you want to see the country go down the drain.

    However, weed is harmless and should be legal, when was the last time someone went out and robbed or killed someone cause they wanted to smoke some bud?

    That propaganda I see on TV all the time about marijuana is pretty damn annoying.

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    Problem is people smoke weed and try to do things that they shouldn't be when high, and thats when people get hurt. Like any other thing that impairs you.
    that makes no logic

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    Weed acts as an inhibitor and makes you less likely to do things you wouldn't normally do.

    Ofcourse if its legalized it should have strict laws placed on its use, just like alcohal.

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    good. thats the distinction that was not being adressed here by others. Now thats something i can agree with
    that makes no logic

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    So many posts!

    Ok, first i'll address EP. I WISH all drugs were legalized in small amounts, but practically I just want the shrooms and pot and the other entheogens legalized. Look at the Netherlands. They don't have a problem and yet those are legal there. If they were legal, it would not mean people not inclined to do drugs will start doing them just because they are legal. Yes, I know some people aren't as educated and responsable as me (and even i've had my low-points), but I do not believe taking one for the team is a good reason to abstain at all. Look at mexico. They legalized small amounts of everything so they could focus on the big dealers. Why can't we do that? Yes, Mexico has a lot of it's corruptions such as going to any pharmacy pretty much and buying whatever you want, but you don't see a big change in mexico pre-legalization and now.

    Finch: Educating people on the dangers is not anti-drug, but when you are always given the worst case scenario it's BS! Look at MJ. It's the gateway drug. Personally I went from alcohol to pills and then MJ. I've NEVER met a person who tried MJ before Alcohol and I hate it when people say "drugs and alcohol". Alcohol is a drug, simple. If you believe them, first a person tries MJ then graduates to pills and heroin and meth. WHAT? I guess almost 3/4ths of americans must be hardcore drug addicts because that's how many have tried MJ atleast once. You NEVER hear about the man or woman who works hard all day, supports their family, then enjoys the occasional joint when the kids aren't around. The truth is it's FAR safer than alcohol and any negative side effects present are not even on the same scale as alcohol. It's a no-brainer to me. If you are against MJ legalization, then the logical thing to do is support alcohol prohibition.

    For your second post, yes people can try stupid things. So can people who drink alcohol and to a much greater extent. That doesn't mean MJ should be illegal does it? People need to take 10 seconds, and think before they act. Yes it lowers your ability to reason sometimes, but most people sit on the couch. Even that anti-drug commercial has a guy saying he'd be safest just sitting on Pete's couch and smoking. But he'd rather be living. See, here is a problem right here. This commercial implies that if you smoke, that's ALL you do. Once again, it's a one-sided presentation.


    JRF: First of all, these drugs do not completely ruin people's lives. Go to an NA meeting sometime. My life hasn't been ruined. I do support legalizing everything. It's a persons right IMO. I say keep it in small amounts, however. People have been killed by alcoholics, too. And gamblers. And because someone completely sober was just pissed off. If someone is an addict, then they need help. Using a drug every now and then does NOT make you an addict untill you crave it, then it's time to back off. I can't help it if people are too stupid to know that and stop. So I should be punished as a proactive measure?

    I HATE to be a narc. I REALLY do. BUT you have you called the cops? Have you called them again? If not then you don't really have a reason to complain. Do you personally know he is responsible for over 20 break ins in one neighborhood or was this just something you heard? Like I said, I WISH and THINK they should be legal, but my hopes are not realistic and it won't happen. I'm not going to press for it politically because that's a dead end, but i'm glad you agree with me about MJ You mentioned extracts. Now we are on a whole other level. I assume you mean things like DMT, 5-ME0 DMT, bufotenin, LSD, mescalin,etc. Why are these bad? These aren't addictive in the slightest. Not one tiny bit. Anyone with the internet can obtain LSA, DMT, mescaline, etc online as long as it's still in the plant form that remins legal. Why not go ahead and legalize it?

    Look at Peyote and San Pedro. You can buy, sell, and own (but not eat but that won't stop anyone) San Pedro, but not Peyote. Why? What's the difference between eating an ounze of San Pedro skin (Yes you can buy just the skin and they label it as incense to get around the law) and a peyote button? Same chemicals. Why not go ahead and legalize them? In the 60's they had stories of LSD and peyote driving people mad but now we know this isn't true. There was a rumor. Take acid 7 times and you go crazy. We know that's not true. LSA is not addictive and it's VERY weak, why not make it legal? Afterall, it's already legal in the seeds of a certain plant that you can cheaply and easily buy. These laws don't make sense. I do agree Mj should have strict laws like alcohol on it's use.


    All I'm asking is throw the Phychonauts a bone once in awhile! People going around eating seeds and smoking a joint are not crackheads. They won't hurt you. They won't rob you and to be honest, you'll never know who they are unless they tell you. Please don't take your frustration on the drug epidemic out on Entheogens. They are not part of the problem and a small fraction of the american people even know what they are. If I told my friends "Oh man! Let's go do some Hawaiian Baby Woodrose!" They'd look at me like I was absolutely nuts. Cebil Nuts that is (bet most of you don't know about those either. See my point?) I have a joke that the best drugs are the one's no one has ever heard of. People like to try entheogens and post videos of it on youtube, and this kind of pisses me off. I don't want people to get scared and press for illegalization out of fear.

    I like all of you guys, even though we have different opininions in some areas

    Disclaimer: Don't go out and buy these plants/seeds that I talk about unless you only want to grow them for their natural beauty. Don't eat them and don't break the law, please. Stay in school and be ahead of your class like I am

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    I WISH all drugs were legalized in small amounts
    There is no point to some of them, and some are so downright dangerous to themselves and others that even small quantities are unacceptable. There is no point to meth and heroin, or speed and such. Why on earth should they be legalized? There is no benefit, there are only harms to themselves and others.

    Alcohol is a drug, simple. If you believe them, first a person tries MJ then graduates to pills and heroin and meth. WHAT? I guess almost 3/4ths of americans must be hardcore drug addicts because that's how many have tried MJ atleast once. You NEVER hear about the man or woman who works hard all day, supports their family, then enjoys the occasional joint when the kids aren't around. The truth is it's FAR safer than alcohol and any negative side effects present are not even on the same scale as alcohol. It's a no-brainer to me. If you are against MJ legalization, then the logical thing to do is support alcohol prohibition.
    This assumes that because one thing is worse, it is ok to legalize something else because "well its not as bad as that", and this is a dangerous logical assumption for anything.
    For your second post, yes people can try stupid things. So can people who drink alcohol and to a much greater extent. That doesn't mean MJ should be illegal does it?
    Never said it did for that reason

    People need to take 10 seconds, and think before they act. Yes it lowers your ability to reason sometimes, but most people sit on the couch. Even that anti-drug commercial has a guy saying he'd be safest just sitting on Pete's couch and smoking. But he'd rather be living. See, here is a problem right here. This commercial implies that if you smoke, that's ALL you do. Once again, it's a one-sided presentation.
    People need to? Most people? In an ideal world, prehaps, but you dont need me to tell you that the world is far from ideal
    that makes no logic

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    Not everything has to have a benefit or be good for you to be pleasurable and used responsibly. I'll agree that some should not use.

    I meant people who do drugs and don't think before they act lol

    On the second post it was kind of rhetorical. I should have made that clearer lol. Didn't mean to direct it at you ^_^

    I still don't see why Alcohol is OK but not MJ. Don't see why that logic is bad. I could be wrong and am just not seeing it.

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