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    Clint yes I think that lowering the stigma is a good thing. Maybe I would be able to get MJ legalized in my lifetime because of the lessened stigma. I really dislike propaganda wars and the illegalization of MJ was the direct result of a propaganda war set forth by a disgruntled prohibitionist when they legalized booze again. Many people would have been out of a job when they could not bust alcohol runners anymore. And to make it a schedule one drug is just ludicrous. To say it has no medicinal value is absurd.
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    It has medical value. I think it is ironic, though, that meth was legal - With the 1950s came a rise in the legal prescription of methamphetamine to the American public. According to the 1951 edition of Pharmacology and Therapeutics (by Arthur Grollman), it was to be prescribed for "narcolepsy, post-encephalitic parkinsonism, alcoholism, ... in certain depressive states... and in the treatment of obesity." And pot was not legal! So yes things can have medical value... I am making a point, as no conclusions can be drawn from the paralell, just is a interesting fact
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    Here is an interesting thread I found while looking for when Hemp was made illegal. I find most of it true except for the part about it being the only plant that is male or female, but that is down in the last part of the thread. It does have the year pot was made illegal though 1937.

    MEDIA MANIPULATION

    A media blitz of 'yellow journalism' raged in the late 1920s and 1930s. Hearst's newspapers ran stories emphasizing the horrors of marihuana. The menace of marihuana made headlines. Readers learned that it was responsible for everything from car accidents to loose morality.

    Films like 'Reefer Madness' (1936), 'Marihuana: Assassin of Youth' (1935) and 'Marihuana: The Devil's Weed' (1936) were propaganda designed by these industrialists to create an enemy. Their purpose was to gain public support so that anti-marihuana laws could be passed.

    Examine the following quotes from 'The Burning Question' aka REEFER MADNESS:

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    a violent narcotic.
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    acts of shocking violence.
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    incurable insanity.
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    soul-destroying effects.
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    under the influence of the drug he killed his entire family with an ax.
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    more vicious, more deadly even than these soul-destroying drugs (heroin, cocaine) is the menace of marihuana!

    Reefer Madness did not end with the usual 'the end.' The film concluded with these words plastered on the screen: TELL YOUR CHILDREN.

    In the 1930s, people were very naive; even to the point of ignorance. The masses were like sheep waiting to be led by the few in power. They did not challenge authority. If the news was in print or on the radio, they believed it had to be true. They told their children and their children grew up to be the parents of the baby-boomers.

    On April 14, 1937, the Prohibitive Marihuana Tax Law or the bill that outlawed hemp was directly brought to the House Ways and Means Committee. This committee is the only one that can introduce a bill to the House floor without it being debated by other committees. The Chairman of the Ways and Means, Robert Doughton, was a Dupont supporter. He insured that the bill would pass Congress.

    Dr. James Woodward, a physician and attorney, testified too late on behalf of the American Medical Association. He told the committee that the reason the AMA had not denounced the Marihuana Tax Law sooner was that the Association had just discovered that marihuana was hemp.

    Few people, at the time, realized that the deadly menace they had been reading about on Hearst's front pages was in fact passive hemp. The AMA understood cannabis to be a MEDICINE found in numerous healing products sold over the last hundred years.

    In September of 1937, hemp became illegal. The most useful crop known became a drug and our planet has been suffering ever since.

    Congress banned hemp because it was said to be the most violence-causing drug known. Anslinger, head of the Drug Commission for 31 years, promoted the idea that marihuana made users act extremely violent. In the 1950s, under the Communist threat of McCarthyism, Anslinger now said the exact opposite. Marijuana will pacify you so much that soldiers would not want to fight.

    Today, our planet is in desperate trouble. Earth is suffocating as large tracts of rain forests disappear. Pollution, poisons and chemicals are killing people. These great problems could be reversed if we industrialized hemp. Natural biomass could provide all of the planet's energy needs that are currently supplied by fossil fuels. We have consumed 80% of our oil and gas reserves. We need a renewable resource. Hemp could be the solution to soaring gas prices.


    Hemp

    THE WONDER PLANT

    Hemp has a higher quality fiber than wood fiber. Far fewer caustic chemicals are required to make paper from hemp than from trees. Hemp paper does not turn yellow and is very durable. The plant grows quickly to maturity in a season where trees take a lifetime.

    ALL PLASTIC PRODUCTS SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP SEED OIL. Hempen plastics are biodegradable! Over time, they would break down and not harm the environment. Oil-based plastics, the ones we are very familiar with, help ruin nature; they do not break down and will do great harm in the future. The process to produce the vast array of natural (hempen) plastics will not ruin the rivers as Dupont and other petrochemical companies have done. Ecology does not fit in with the plans of the Oil Industry and the political machine. Hemp products are safe and natural.

    MEDICINES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. We should go back to the days when the AMA supported cannabis cures. 'Medical Marijuana' is given out legally to only a handful of people while the rest of us are forced into a system that relies on chemicals. Pot is only healthy for the human body.

    WORLD HUNGER COULD END. A large variety of food products can be generated from hemp. The seeds contain one of the highest sources of protein in nature. ALSO: They have two essential fatty acids that clean your body of cholesterol. These essential fatty acids are not found anywhere else in nature! Consuming pot seeds is the best thing you could do for your body. Eat uncooked hemp seeds.

    CLOTHES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. Hemp clothing is extremely strong and durable over time. You could hand clothing, made from pot, down to your grandchildren. Today, there are American companies that make hemp clothing; usually 50% hemp. Hemp fabrics should be everywhere. Instead, they are almost underground. Superior hemp products are not allowed to advertise on fascist television. Kentucky, once the top hemp producing state, made it ILLEGAL TO WEAR hemp clothing! Can you imagine being thrown into jail for wearing quality jeans?

    The world is crazy...but that does not mean you have to join the insanity. Get together. Spread the news. Tell people, and that includes your children, the truth. Use hemp products. Eliminate the word 'marijuana.' Realize the history that created it. Make it politically incorrect to say or print the M-word. Fight against the propaganda (designed to favor the agenda of the super rich) and the bull****. Hemp must be utilized in the future. We need a clean energy source to save our planet. INDUSTRIALIZE HEMP!

    The liquor, tobacco and oil companies fund more than a million dollars a day to Partnership for a Drug-Free America and other similar agencies. We have all seen their commercials. Now, their motto is: It's more dangerous than we thought. Lies from the powerful corporations, that began with Hearst, are still alive and well today.

    The brainwashing continues. Now, the commercials say: If you buy a joint, you contribute to murders and gang wars. The latest anti-pot commercials say: If you buy a joint...you are promoting TERRORISM! The new enemy (terrorism) has paved the road to brainwash you any way THEY see fit.

    There is only one enemy; the friendly people you pay your taxes to; the war-makers and nature destroyers. With your funding, they are killing the world right in front of your eyes. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY TOBACCO. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY ALCOHOL. NO ONE HAS EVER, EVER DIED FROM SMOKING POT!! In the entire history of the human race, not one death can be attributed to cannabis. Our society has outlawed grass but condones the use of the KILLERS: TOBACCO and ALCOHOL. Hemp should be declassified and placed in DRUG stores to relieve stress. Hardening and constriction of the arteries are bad; but hemp usage actually enlarges the arteries...which is a healthy condition. We have been so conditioned to think that: Smoking is harmful. That is NOT the case for passive pot.

    Ingesting THC, hemp's active agent, has a positive effect; relieving asthma and glaucoma. A joint tends to alleviate the nausea caused by chemotherapy. You are able to eat on hemp. This is a healthy state of being.

    {One personal note: During the pregnancy of my wife, she was having some difficulty gaining weight. We were in the hospital. A nurse called us to one side and said: Off the record, if you smoke pot...you'd get something called the munchies and youll gain weight.' I swear that is a true story}.

    The stereotype for a pothead is similar to a drunk, bubble-brain. Yet, the truth is ones creative abilities can be enhanced under its influence. The perception of time slightly slows and one can become more sensitive. You can more appreciate all arts; be closer to nature and generally FEEL more under the influence of cannabis. It is, in fact, the exact opposite state of mind and body as the drunken state. You can be more aware with pot.

    The pot plant is an ALIEN plant. There is physical evidence that cannabis is not like any other plant on this planet. One could conclude that it was brought here for the benefit of humanity. Hemp is the ONLY plant where the males appear one way and the females appear very different, physically! No one ever speaks of males and females in regard to the plant kingdom because plants do not show their sexes; except for cannabis. To determine what sex a certain, normal, Earthly plant is: You have to look internally, at its DNA. A male blade of grass (physically) looks exactly like a female blade of grass. The hemp plant has an intense sexuallity. Growers know to kill the males before they fertilize the females. Yes, folks...the most potent pot comes from 'horny females.'

    The reason this amazing, very sophisticated, ET plant from the future is illegal has nothing to do with how it physically affects us..

    POT IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE BILLIONAIRES WANT TO REMAIN BILLIONAIRES!
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    Lol.... I think saying MJ is an alien might.. discredit one's opinions and make them look like.... well a big pothead! I do agree with that article though. Hemp is really the perfect plant.

    LMAO! Maybe I just misinterpreted it lol. The only reason MJ is illegal is because the government can't tax something that's a weed and grows everywhere. It's very simple. MJ vs. alcohol, which is worse? Which is responsible for overdoses? Which leads to violent rage? Which leads to murder? Which leads to death by chronic addiction? Which destroys families? Which causes most of the car crashes? Which is worse on the body? Which causes liver problems? Which killed my uncle lol. Seriousy. The answer to all of those is ALCOHOL! The only reason alcohol is legal is because A: it's taxable, and B: It's liquid. If it was a sold at room temperature it would be a prescription and illegal without one.


    Speaking of medicinal value, those "useless" hallucinogens are being re-investigated for a number of illnesses. MDMA was a valuable theraputic drug, untill it was made illegal.

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    Clint Hemp is a perfect plant. The seeds are the worlds most perfect food. As I said the plant was made illegal because of propaganda and missinformation. They could easily tax it just as they tax other food crops, but of course you would have things slipping through the cracks of course. Just like with people brewing their own beer and such. I believe it should be basicly done the same way as beer.

    It could save the trees and lower dependance on fosil fuels to boot. Jeans made from hemp can last more than 8 years and the list goes on and on. I think it just makes to much sence to use hemp for paper heck the constitution is written on hemp paper. They grow like wild fire with a plant reaching maturaty in a single season instead of several like trees. I see it as a no brainer personaly.
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    Ok, explain to me where we will get the land to Farm Hemp products? We already have a problem with urban sprawling on farm land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nepenthes_ak View Post
    Ok, explain to me where we will get the land to Farm Hemp products? We already have a problem with urban sprawling on farm land.
    not really....................take Montana for example, its the 4th largest state yet there is still under 1 million ppl living here. you would be surprised how much good farm land isnt being used to produce crops. the guberment is paying farmers to plant fields as CRP instead of wheat or barley or whatever. millions of acres of "farmland" that once produced grain is actually currently planted with grasses and plants like flax and left to grow wild. however this land isnt counted as grass land its counted as productive farm land................you would be very surprised just how much land we can still farm without any problems
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    Well that settles it. We shall cover all of Montana with hemp and run naked through a forest of pot.

    Brings a whole new meaning to the term "grassland" hehe.

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