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    If he were an adult that would a non-issue. I think the only reason that a issue was raised in the first place to prevent him from doing so was age only; do you have any case of this happening to a adult?
    that makes no logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch View Post
    If he were an adult that would a non-issue. I think the only reason that a issue was raised in the first place to prevent him from doing so was age only; do you have any case of this happening to a adult?
    I don't know about legal action or specific cases, but I do know of cases where patients have been removed as patients because they refused treatment and have had difficult times finding other care because of this, even though they had serious medical problems that needed urgent assistance. I also personally know one person who tried to refuse care and the care was given anyway... and possibly at the cost of the individuals life (Still waiting to see how this story unfolds, but frankly... it doesn't appear she will survive, and if she does she will have absolutely no quality of life and I hope that you do see this on the news because it is a bunch of crap and there is no one who knows the whole story that believes it can happen in America). I have heard where families of elderly patients have been taken to court when they refused treatment (seen this personally as well) although I suppose legally they would be sort of put into the same category as children if they were unable to give their own voice.

    Children on the other hand... Sad really. When an entity that really could care less about you can make a final decision on what you have done to your body.
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    Sigh. Doctors. Antibiotics. Medicine. Pharmaceutical Companies. I will stick with natural herbal remedies. They work. When folks start pooh poohing herbal remedies, where the hell do they think medicines started? It was in the best interest of the medical community to ridicule it so you would rely on them exclusively. And what did we get? No doctors anymore. Front men for the pharmaceutical outfits, with an emphasis these days to close down Natural Health shops. Cannot remember the name of the plan at the moment, but I watch everything the Government does as it is all in their best interest where money is concerned. I still cannot understand why the people still vote for the rich They have absolutely NO concept as to what it is like to be in our shoes. They vote for self interest, and NOT the will of the people. BTW, I am running for President on a write in basis. And I have no money to finance it. The people should vote from among their own if they really want a Government For the People, of the People, and by the people. Our "leaders" (and I use that in incredibly loose terms) have lost that vision in their greed for money, and a lust for power. Sorry, but the only power IS God, and not much else counts, especially money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugweed View Post
    Sigh. Doctors. Antibiotics. Medicine. Pharmaceutical Companies. I will stick with natural herbal remedies. They work. When folks start pooh poohing herbal remedies, where the hell do they think medicines started. It was in the best interest of the medical community to ridicule it so you would rely on them exclusively. And whatdid we get? No doctors anymore. Front men for the pharmaceutical outfits, with an emphasis these days to close down Natural Health shops. Cannot remember the name of the plan at the moment, but I watch everything the Government does as it is all in their best interest where money is concerned. I still cannot understand why the people still vote for rich They have absolutely NO concept as top what it is like to be in our shoes. They vote for self interest, and NOT the will of the people. BTW, I am running for President on a write in basis. And I have no money to finance it. The people should vote from among their own if they really want a Government For the People, of the People, and by the people. Our "leaders" (and I use that term in incredibly loose terms) have lost that vision in their greed for money, and a lust for power. Sorry, but the only power IS God, and not much else counts, especially money.
    Wonderfully put and I agree with you 100%.

    Unfortunately I don't believe Americans are put into a position to vote for the best person. We are stuck in this two party system and told that additional parties are "bad for the USA". American's, for the most part, refuse to do their own research on the topics and the people and wont make their own educated decisions based on facts, but on what they see on one-sided, television which is hardly accurate... ignorance is bliss.

    I would vote for you.
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    Like I said, Kat, write in. Would the Powers that Be be shocked to realize they didn't "OWN" us anymore!!! I have the interest of the people and this country on my mind, and this Bogus War, started by President Shrub, is a killer. Plus, they blow so much smoke up our rears, they keep our attention diverted elsewhere so they can do something else illegal over here, knowing your attention is somewhere else. I love my country, and do not respect what this Government has become. Too much power in the hands of those who think they deserve it, and know better than us. I say, That is purely Bullsh**!!!!!!!!! Do not rely on parties. They want the same thing (POWER) without having to really deserve it. Different parties with the same agenda. To RULE the People. I believe Hitler had a similar plan.
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    [QUOTE=Bugweed;810980]Like I said, Kat, write in. Would the Powers that Be be shocked to realize they didn't "OWN" us anymore!!! I have the interest of the people and this country on my mind, and this Bogus War, started by President Shrub, is a killer. Plus, they blow so much smoke up our rears, they keep our attention diverted elsewhere so they can do something else illegal over here, knowing your attention is somewhere else. I love my country, and do not respect what this Government has become. ,QUOTE]

    Exactly, and when we voice our distaste for these things we are called "Freedom haters", when in reality it is the total opposite. I love my country, I love God, and I will defend either if called to do so.

    I wish it were so simple to just write in... in reality, what is the odds of a write in ever being elected as long as the country is caught in this two party system? The individual would have to be someone who was known by the whole country. Then again... in the age of the internet and the state our country is in... I suppose it is possible. Am I debating myself here I think I need food.
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    It is a problem with change, seeing what really IS happening, and wanting to do it differently. Change is what made this country great, and change is needed again. The psychological ploys used by the "Elite" in Government works because it helps if you have blind sheep to follow the Judas Goat. Only good thing is that King Shrub has pretty much destroyed the Republican party in his immense greed. I know sooo many ex-republicans that have become independant because of this dumb S.O.B.

    My platform: The Constitution of the United States of America
    Live by: The Declaration of Independance
    Backed By: The Bill of Rights.

    Get rid of the power for the rich. MAKE them pay their fair share. Tell the Corporations they cannot contribute ANY money to campaigns. Toss out the lobbyists, and run the country by our written word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugweed View Post
    It is a problem with change, seeing what really IS happening, and wanting to do it differently. Change is what made this country great, and change is needed again. The psychological ploys used by the "Elite" in Government works because it helps if you have blind sheep to follow the Judas Goat. Only good thing is that King Shrub has pretty much destroyed the Republican party in his immense greed. I know sooo many ex-republicans that have become independant because of this dumb S.O.B.

    My platform: The Constitution of the United States of America
    Live by: The Declaration of Independance
    Backed By: The Bill of Rights.

    Get rid of the power for the rich. MAKE them pay their fair share. Tell the Corporations they cannot contribute ANY money to campaigns. Toss out the lobbyists, and run the country by our written word.
    Amen. I think that is actually one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen in print.
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