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    That is terrible. People are far too short sighted and definitely aren't thinking about what kind of world they are leaving for their grandchildren...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustLikeAPill View Post
    I swear to GOD that I saw one of those on our deck a week a go. It looked JUST like the pictures from google images, identical! It's not supposed to be native to N. ga though

    Looked just like this. http://a1410.g.akamai.net/f/1410/163.../BD0435_1l.jpg
    Yeah, I see them going nuts on my tree all the time. At least I think its the same type.

    You can always tell when they're up there because the weird call and pecking noise.

    Years ago we use to have one that would peck the hell out of a metal street light post every morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepg;
    IM not sure I understand what is going on here. They cut down trees to discourage the woodpeckers? Why Can someone summarize what is going on, not a very well written article.

    Quote Originally Posted by 0zzy View Post
    To make it as simple as I can. The woodpeckers are federally listed, so if they are found nesting on your property, you can't disturb them.

    People cut down all their trees so that they wouldn't be found on their property.

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    The agency issued a map marking 15 active woodpecker “clusters,” and announced it was working on a new one that could potentially designate whole neighborhoods of this town in southeastern North Carolina as protected habitat, subject to more-stringent building restrictions
    In more detail, and a slightly different view, I reply: They cut down their trees so their area would no longer have a reason to be listed as one of these "clusters" as a protected habitat. Basically, they were protecting their right to do what ever the wanted to their land. If all the trees remained and the area was written off as a protected habitat, it would be VERY difficult if not impossible to do what they want on their own property. If you wanted to build a ... I don’t know... Greenhouse, extra house for your elderly mom and dad to live in, or garage but your land had trees everywhere, you're out of luck. I'd bet the house value would go down for those reasons too.

    Without going back to the other topics to see who, isn't their a large group of folks here that think the government is trying to control too much already? But it's okay for them to tell you what you can do and cannot do on your property if it is to save a bird?

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    Land owners have been known to have people go over a property to remove endangered plants that could limit development. I think that's wrong too. In my opinion, a person's ability to squeeze every last cent out of a piece of land is less important than protecting habitat for endangered species. When a highway is built, residential property values fall next to the new highway and commercial property values can drop on the road bypassed. No one gets compensated unless their land is actually taken for the project. Many things government does on behalf of everyone hurt individuals but the loudest noise is always raised over environmental issues. Mostly because no one makes any serious money off them.
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    ...this reminds me of a poorly written conservation movie where the bad guys do completely irrational things to harm the ecosystem for...

    'cept it's real life...

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    People are bloody idiots... That article makes me want to throw up. Sick freaking people.
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    Well the government is wrong being so rash declaring your land a "preserve" Im sure building a single house would not hinder the bird populations. I mean jeez, we live with squirrels everyday, I just think its an over-reaction on the goverment, which caused the people to freak out and do something completely irrational harming everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nepenthes gracilis View Post
    Well the government is wrong being so rash declaring your land a "preserve" Im sure building a single house would not hinder the bird populations. I mean jeez, we live with squirrels everyday, I just think its an over-reaction on the goverment, which caused the people to freak out and do something completely irrational harming everyone.
    hahahah and squirrels cause more damage than a woodpecker, I would assume. I haven't heard of anyone complaining that a woodpecker used the inside of their car or insulation from their house as bedding. I wonder if they will replace those trees!
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