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    Give Robots their RIGHTS!

    I read an article on the BBC about South Korea forming a team to develop Robot Ethics to answer the questions of how they should be used, and human treatment of them. I think this is a interesting thing to ponder because we haven't as of yet encountered something that is the equal to us in cognitive skills. Here is the article and let the discussion begin!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6425927.stm
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    I just wonder how advanced robots will be 10, 25, even 50 years from now. It's going to have a major social impact. Imagine a robot demanding the same rights as humans. That's going to be a turning point in our civilization.
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    I can't even think of something to reply....just speechless in a reply.....

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    Poor things, its almost as if we have given them a job to do on-call, 24/7! Im so glad that the science-fiction writer is there to sort it all ouut
    that makes no logic

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    Well, since it is inevitable that humans will eventually become robots, or robots will eventually destroy us all, it might be important to have some rules, or not have them in order to keep dominance over them.

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    If you look any nearly any movie or sci fi book regarding Robot issues of the future lots of these address ethics.

    Inevitably, humans will feel that robots are lifeless, soulless, slaves of burden. Whether you believe this to be true or not, if we continue to develop a robot to the point of being aware of self identity then these questions will become real.

    The "Animatrix" was a series of short films (about 1h30m long) that were designed to show viewers the events that led to what we saw in the trilogy of "The Matrix". This very issue what was caused all the problems. It's interesting to watch and the reactions of humanity....well, I found myself thinking "this is EXACTLY how this would have happened".
    Last edited by Jeztor; 03-08-2007 at 03:10 PM. Reason: typos

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    Robots are lifeless, soulless, slaves of burden... they are no more alive than my toaster.

    Ok, lets assume that what happened in the Animatrix WAS possible, and they could feel emotional pain, would that be REAL even though it's programmed? We could never comprehend what it's like since we aren't robots. If a robot could develop self identity would it be real? If we programmed it how could it be real? I suppose IF a robot could develop self identity then I would support robot rights, sure. It won't happen in our lifetimes, anyway.


    I think it'll be more like Ghost in the Shell instead of the Animatrix. If I could get implanted so I could interface with computers I'd do it in a heartbeat fo shizzle.

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    I was aiming less in the direction of "should we give robots rights" and more in the direction of "when will robots begin taking rights for themselves"?

    Additionally, in the TV show "Battlestar Galactica" there is a similar debate many years in the future. A race of robots called the Cylons have created their own organic race of people. Humans created the Cylons, but Cylons created a species that was a mix of human beings and robot such that humans couldn't tell the difference. The species was organic with mostly organic organs, but still had many computer-like components on the inside. At that point, though, they bred THEMSELVES. Now are they real? What's more, in the show Cylons are consistently talking about "God". The shows does not specifically say, but essentially this God they speak of is the same God that the average Christian would worship. The Cylons claim they are the ones acting in the interest of God, killing in the interest of God. You've got a nigh-undefeatable, vindictive, religious zealot at this point. What the hell do you do?

    They didn't ask for rights. They took them with such force that humanity was nearly destroyed. Their reasoning? "We were once slaves of humanity, treated with no more dignity than the ants under their feet". How can you appeal to the humanity of a robot at that point to stop killing humanity when humanity spent so much of its time doing the same to Cylons?

    All that said, do I think that we should start scribing a Bill of Rights for robots? No, but I'd sure hate for people to begin considering it at a time when it's too late.
    Last edited by Jeztor; 03-08-2007 at 03:10 PM. Reason: lots of typos

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