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Thread: "new" interpertation of endangerd species act

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    mountain lions declined due to a bounty being oun their head.............wolves were wiped out long, long before cougars started making a comeback..........

    there was no reason to introduce wolves(which dont understand boundries. Theodore Roosevelt State park in ND has an over population of elk at the moment, their solution? allow limited hunting..............seems the solution Teddy Roosevelt would even applaud.......
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    But wolves do understand the necessity for staying in areas where they can be supported, i.e. food supply. Why let people hunt when we can reintroduce animals that have been endangered. It seems to be a win-win situation in my opinion. I would rather give underrepresented populations the opportunity to grow than allow humans to go in and do population control with guns. Nature will balance itself out in the best way possible, instead of us trying to figure it out ourselves.

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    I never said that wolves caused an initial delcine in ML. The comeback was helped along by the absance of wolves. Grizily bears and mountain lions benefit from wolves absence...

    allowing a natural balance is the best solution, plus because the animals do no understand boundries, they can contrl overpopulation elsewhere... hunting, weather deer or snowgeese or elk, does not always provide population control. Just look at deer, snowgeese, and elk!!
    that makes no logic

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    my point is gray wolves arent endangered..................by reintroducing them to Yellowstone you opent the current can of worms.....wolves are multiplying fast and expanding their range into areas where they get into trouble and yah have to shoot the wolves...........makes more damn sence to just let some hunters in to fill their freezers................its going to take decades for the wolf situation to reach equilibrium if it ever will at all............large preditors and man do not mix..........best leave them up north where they have alot of room. dropping them in Yellowstone close the highest densities of ppl they possibly could in Montana, Wyoming or Idaho.................
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    No grey wolves are not endangerd. Large predators and man can mix, you just dont want to, so everyone wants to control the levels they think "should" be.

    Since man controls the land now, i guess its time youd better be getting along and mixing now... i understand there are programs in place to repay any stock lost to predators... and its not like a healthy wolf is a threat to your life.....
    that makes no logic

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    deer over population is generally in areas that arent big on hunting, usually back east around larger population centers........in the west its MUCH less a issue.........the only places elk are over populated are in parks where hunting isnt allowed................where hunting is allowed they are thriving but only occationally need extra control measures(damage hunts)

    a good example of why i have problems with the Fish and Game departments in the USA is when they started reintroducing elk to the various plains states.......instead of rentroducing the Manitoban Elk (Cervus elaphus manitobensis) which at one time was native there they introduced the Rocky Mountain Elk (Cervus elaphus nelsoni) which was not native to the region.........it would have been simple enough to get the Manatoban from herds in Minnisota but instead took Rocky Mountains from Colorado, Wyoming and Montana.......yep these geniuses are great ppl to be put incharge of reintroducing large preditors................
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    the essencial ingredient in large preditors and man mixing is few ppl..............the area around Yellowstone has alot of ppl compared to other areas in the region..........hell Glacier would have made more sence................
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    You know what I am tired of every few months typing out all the reasons that bush is the evil person that he is.
    I have a great idea Oz, just copy and paste your reasons for hating Busch into "word".
    Then, after the next presidential election you can simply change the name to either Hillary or Obama.

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