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Thread: Proof of Abuse by our troops in Iraq!!

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    enough arm chair quarterbacking...

    from a dear mate of mine whom I am @#$ proud of

    Over the past 7 months we have endured at times hell. We've tasted fear, experienced anxiety, felt the adrenaline rush under attack, and gave it out better to the enemy than he gave it to us. The Coalition wins every time, but we do not, nor will we ever have the support of the people. We are occupiers of their country. Mind you better on his shores than ours, and this war is a long way from ending, its still the beginning.

    I have made the best of friends, some brothers by choice. I have lived life on the edge, and many times, we enjoyed ourselves, call it a big boys club if you wish. At times I've been bored, scared, and mostly we were all quite comfortable, however, it was not all easy. Some long days, but its all been worth it. I will miss those guys!

    There is no winners in this war, the country is still in a nose dive, and I don't think in our lifetime, we'll see an improvement. Violence is in their culture. We cannot force our way of life on others who don't have a clue.

    All the training over the years prepared me for this, and more or less, it was pretty much as I thought it would be. As for being brave, well I call it being stupid. Yes, at times I volunteered for things because I compelled to do so, yet later before a mission I questioned myself "****** are you nuts?", ha! In reality, if I did not volunteer, I would have problems living with myself. I hope that makes sense. For those that have been, you will understand.

    We all reacted well under fire, and conducted ourselves accordingly. The Unit had been delibertly attacked, and we stood our ground. We had been rocketed, mortar'd, and been in the range of enemy machine gun fire. We were also ambushed and fought with the tenacity that we have earned the reputaion for. Sadly one time, we shot a US civilian, killing him instantly, that was out of our hands, but we had no choice. His vehicle was machinegunned as he refused to stop at our checkpoint, and fearing yet another suicide bomber, we acted within our rights to stop him. He was 58, from Texas. Another waste of a man's life.

    The daily bombings, some so close, our buildings shook, while others rumbled in the distance with large mushroom clouds and secondary burn.

    Anyways, enough of the doom and gloom. Its bloody good to be at home. All is well with ******. The house is great, the weather is great, and I cannot complain.

    Although I have left Iraq, a small piece of me will always be there in my mind for as long as I am alive. Many faces, the locals we hired who were killed, the friends we made who have no hope of escaping (to name a few, Hiada, Ahmed, Ali, R'iad - who just had a baby boy, the Atta brothers, and of course Fil our translator and scheemer). The Coalition soldiers who became good friends, such as *****, *****, ***** and of course the men from the new RIP (Relief In Place), who now have to endure what we went thru. I wish them all well, and a safe tour like we had. I also cannot forget the traitors who befriended us, and then turned on us. I never did trust Mohammed and his lunitic fringe of diesel deliverers, (I thought he was a bent LEC long ago). I am sure he is dead now, as he was handed over the the Iraqi Forces.


    Just remember how lucky you are if you do a late return on a video or DVD, miss a VISA payment or get a speeding ticket. These figures are for Baghdad alone. Remember for Baghdad, and are only from his time spent in country, give or take a week.

    IED's (Road side bombs): 4,806

    VBIED's (Vehicle bombs including suicide): 874

    Orgainised attacks with rifles and misc weapons: 8,559

    RPG attacks: 356; and

    Indirect Fire Attacks (Rockets and Mortars): 2,224

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    I do not see why rattler has to justify posting those photos...much less apologize to anyone for them.
    If I am correct he was making a satirical statement as to how the mainstream (so called) would interpert the photos.
    The war in Iraq is a bad war. But then there is no such thing as a good war.
    Hundreds of Iraqi men, women and children are murdered each week by the various warring factions...all in the name of "religion". They are terrorists in the truest sense of the word, yet we are viewed as the bad guys.
    I am at a loss to understand that kind of thinking.

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    Please don't turn this into a pissing match. I'm not trying to diminsh your friend's effort or anyone else's that has actually been out there fighting. The fact of the matter is, this war isn't about our personal freedoms - it's about shady economics at best. And I don't get speeding tickets, nor do I return DVDs late or rely on credit for my daily bread; I have found ways to support my nation without acting as a decisionless killing tool for others' personal political agendas. I feel good about that decision - for one because I don't like killing, and also because I think that invoking the wrath of other nations and world powers is a foolhardy way of protecting your own.
    What is the point of those numbers, anyways? Is that something to be proud of? Does it somehow justify the enormous loss of life that this war is causing? Why not stack that up next to Iraqi vs. Coalition casualties? Make it into a pie graph - everybody likes pie! Honestly, people are dying, and they didn't have to - remember that Bush started this war. You can say how terrible it is and how much we need to support our troops, but don't point at numbers, because those statistics were all zero before March 20th, 2003.
    I've lost people that I loved very much in Iraq. How many of your friends and relatives have died there? How many people do you know who've returned from this war and chosen to kill themselves after what they'd seen? Armchair quarterbacking? That's a cheap shot.
    ~Joe

    PS - I'm also not trying to ask for an apology, and I didn't mean to come off that way. I'm pretty sure rattler didn't author this, and he doesn't have to take responsibility for it. I'm just sharing an opinion; that irony of these captions is a little heartless in light of the situation. It's just kind of disappointing that supporting our troops can go hand-in-hand with condoning warcrimes. Forgive me if I'm touchy on this subject; once members of your family are dying over a topic, it tends to polarize you.
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    I don't see anything honorable about this war. Nothing at all. What's to be proud of? It's just another blemish on America. I'm not putting troops down, not at all. They have to go over there because our MORON!!! of a president tells them to. This war is about oil and about how Saddam tried to kill bush's dear daddy. If you think it's about spreading democracy, you're kidding yourself.

    What the hell ever happened to Afghanistan? Uhhhhhh... maybe I'm an idiot but isn't that where the real terrorist were?

    And excuse me, but what are we doing about the opium trade that funds terrorism? Is this war on drugs really working? Come on. Fields of Papaver somniferum as far as the eye can see yet somehow the Turkish and Afghani and other government don't know about it? They can't see an endless field of opium poppies, yet they say they are our allies and want to stop terrorist? What? What?

    Why are we ****ing around in baghdad, where they don't want us, when Darfur NEEDS us?

    What ever happened to those concentration camps we call prisons?

    What ever happened to Habeas Corpus?

    The republicans complain about people not supporting the war = not supporting the troops, yet if I recall they are the ones who wouldn't even give the troops proper head gear. But hey, at least bush can take a month long vacation. Wonder what that cost?

    And what's up with giving money to peanut storage and tropical fish farmers? WTF?

    The president is telling congress to hurry up and pass bills so he can veto them. What? What? Who elected this guy again?

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    Joe,

    My comments are pointed at those who have never been shot at, who are quick to place blame, who know all the answers..

    personally, I do not believe this war was just, but that is besides the point now... now we are knee deep in s@#t and it is going to be one hellva long road out

    and please do not make assumptions about me, you do not know what I have seen, what I have done or where I have been

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    nor do you know about seedjars, wich makes the accusation of armchair quarterbacking equally unfair
    that makes no logic

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    Like I said, I'm sorry to come off harsh - I had a 50/50 kind of feeling about what you were getting at with your last post. Not try to question your position; I'm just also not keen on letting people do the same to me. In context, your point is well taken. I'm sure you can understand that if your reply had genuinely been a criticism of my opinion, what you were saying might've made less sense from my position; to throw out a personal letter about the war and a bunch of statistics, both detailing how awful and gory it is, would seem to be a poor choice of justifications for further engagement.
    ~Joe
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    My apologies as well Joe, it is an emotional subject and one that is close to the hearts of many... god I wish there was a simple answer

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