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Proof of Abuse by our troops in Iraq!!

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  • #61
what is there to understand about radical islam? they hate use because of what we are.............they hate us because we are different from them...........as i said im all for turning Israel loose on their own..........i think it will be a hell of a fire works show............
 
  • #62
They hate us because we make a TV show about radical Islam to make money. THAT'S why they hate us :) They want royalties.

Sleeper Cell anyone?
 
  • #63
what is there to understand about radical islam? they hate use because of what we are.............they hate us because we are different from them...........as i said im all for turning Israel loose on their own..........i think it will be a hell of a fire works show............

The fact that you believe they hate us cause of what we are proves you have no clue about what is labeled "Extremist Islam". As I have said they hate us because we force upon them governments they dont want. We condone or at least do not stop the rape, torture, theft of property, and murder of Muslims by Israel. We stick our noses into their business and do what ever it takes to make things they way we want them. If we are not willing to accept the consequences which is terrorist acts against our nation then its time we with draw our troops from their lands and stay the $#^& out of there. its that simple. A holocaust is going on in Palestine and we fund it which will have repercussions for us. We support one of the most brutal, violent despots in the world in Saudi Arabia. We invaded Iraq, removed its government and dropped into a state of chaos where murder and death are the rules not the exception. We brought extremist Islam to Iraq along with terrorists. we have dropped bombs on homes and killed thousands of fathers, mothers, and children. We depress their economy for our own benefits. We strip their lands of their natural resources for our sole benefit. Your right they have no reason to hate us. Its solely because we exsist thats the only reason to hate us. I know I would love any country who had done all these things to my country, especially if they condone the extermination of my people and bombed my house killing my relatives.

As for Israel the only reason they would survive is because they were allowed to develop nuclear weapons in violation of the non-proliferation treaties.
 
  • #64
BS....................they hate anyone not like them

YALA, Thailand (Reuters) - A Buddhist woman was shot and burned alive in Thailand’s violence-torn Muslim-majority south on Wednesday, prompting angry protests in front of visiting army chief Sonthi Boonyaratglin.

Watcharaporn Boonmak, 26, was ambushed by gunmen as she rode her motorcycle through a Muslim village in Yala, one of the three southern provinces roiled by three years of separatist insurgency in which more than 2,000 people have been killed.

“She might have been shot in the stomach before they set fire to her and her motorcycle,” a Yala police officer, who asked to remain anonymous, told Reuters by telephone.

One of her relatives told Reuters that witnesses at the scene heard Watcharaporn, a garage clerk, screaming and crawling along the road for help but nobody dared respond for fear of reprisals. ...

“It is the most cruel and brutal thing I’ve seen in my life,” Jaran Kongchuay said as he joined hundreds of Buddhists bearing Watcharaporn’s charred body on a hospital stretcher to the provincial hall, demanding action from Sonthi. “Beheading or burning alive, no one is arrested!” one of their placards read. “Will the government please pay closer attention to the three southern border provinces?” another said.
 
  • #65
Well... I dunno. I think SpecialK has a point. I mean.. isn't it odd that Islam has such a high porportion of radicals/terrorists/extremist/whatever the terminology is this week, compared to every other religion? And isn't it odd how they are so localized in the middle eastern countries (the radicals) which just happen to be under such occupation?

I mean... Isreal isn't popping out suicide bombers and they aren't occupied. The mostly Christian Italy isn't... China, Singapore, Sustralia, ETC isn't. Just these middle eastern countries who are occupied. Maybe when pushed so far people just pop and can't take it anymore. NOT that I'm defending radicals.


BUT! What excuse do the radicals in Britain have? And if those radicals hate the west so much why are they in Britain to begin with? Britain isn't occupied so what tie do they feel they have to the radicals in the middle east?

Another thing to look at is the Crusades. YES! The Crusades! I mean, that was pretty much invasion and terrorism right there. It was a long time ago when people's cultural mentalities weren't as "advanced" or western as they are today. Now let's look at the relatively non-western, practically ancient, pretty stagnant culture of the middle east. One could draw parallels between that culture and that of the Christians during the Crusades. Maybe that area is producing a proportionally high proportion (lol. Proportionally high proportion) of radicals because maybe their culture just needs to have a few hundred years to "catch up"?

It's hard to articulate my words and be politically correct in regards to culture and not say "primitive" at the same time. Very hard. If anyone got offended by any of that, I meant it in a non offensive way so there. It's difficult to be so PC all of the time!
 
  • #66
Thailand isnt occupied and Buddists are far from threats to them...............Iran isnt occupied and is making big bucks selling oil to the west.............
 
  • #67
If we could see the suppressed government pictures of the violence, the war verily might end.
 
  • #68
I am not familiar with the situation in Thailand, If you could give me some more background information on the situation between Buddhists and Muslims in Thailand it would make your point have more weight. Also this does not show a distaste for the west and the United States which is what you are saying extremist Islam is all about. My guess is this is rooted in internal conflicts between Muslims and Buddhists in Thailand.

As for Iran what does Iran have to do with this situation. Although they are training many of the people in Iraq they are doing so to increase their sphere of influence just as the United States does all the time. Plus Iranians arent the ones blowing up they are training the Iraqis to explode.

Also the reason Britain has some extremists is because they controlled a large part of the middle east during the mandate period and put many of the weak puppet governments in place that allowed dictators to take control. Plus they are the ones who promised Palestine to the Jews even though people already lived there. Also they help fund Israel, helped with the invasion of Iraq, and have not had good relations with the Muslims living in Britain.
 
  • #69
He brought up Iran to point how how it's not occupied but still has many radical people there. To refute my hypothesis. It was a seldom moment of insight Sheridan, how could you strike it down? lol

The Israelis think they have a claim to Israel because God promised it to them in the old testament thousand of years ago. Oh wait... I think they took it away from the "Giants" or some BS like that back then, too.

It's really laughable.
 
  • #70
If we could see the suppressed government pictures of the violence, the war verily might end.

:0o: Oooh, you mean those photos in the box buried underneath the tree in my back yard... Yeah, every memeber of the republican party has duplicates of those. Actually last week I invited Dubya to my house so we could look and poder at them while we ate scones and drank mint tea....I'm really not supposed to tell you about this, so keep it on the low...
 
  • #71
Don't be silly. Dubbyah doesn't know what a scone is.

"Wha... who's stoned? Wher? ehehehehe"


Just for fun I looked at the Google ads.

Christian Disaster Relief, Georgia is at Risk! and naturally, Work at Home - Great Pay.
 
  • #72
"This criminal of the American way; this "towlie ban" is a "scone"on our society"...yeah... I couldn't really think of anything, sorry...
 
  • #73
ktulu.....you claim i have no knowlege about Islam and the region and you attempt to educate me but your unfamiliar with Thailand, which prolly has the largest muslim population outside of the Middle East...................seems you need to do some reading my friend, especially since they have been in the news ALOT thie last couple of years due to situations like i posted above.............



EDIT: sorry, im thinking of Indonesia that has the largest population outside teh MidEast but the sentiment stands as its a fight between the Buddists and Muslims there aswell and its the next door neighbor....................ive had 3 very long days, im headed to bed and with any luck ill be able to pop back in tomorrow but im not sure...........next 3 days look buisier hell
 
  • #75
That's OOOOLD news and I believe those soldiers who made them do that were punished.

Those particular soldiers are sorry SOB's and are a waste oxygen, but don't let a few bad apples be a representative of EVERYONE.
 
  • #76
as comedian Chris Titus said.........................."if it wont get yah into a frat at Chico State, it aint torture.........a chick pointing at your "privates" and laughing. i used to date chicks like that, with the right mind set thats foreplay....she's looking at it and smiling, she's digging it!..........."
 
  • #77
That is so much BS. What happened at Abu Ghraib prison is a far cry from what the radical Islamists are doing to their own people. Sensless murder of men, women and children just to promote their brand of religion.
Give me a break. Americans are not the bad guys.

These people want to murder me. These people want to murder you. They want to murder anyone who does not think like them. They are now bombing their own people in Morroco. What part of, "We are at war with a hideous group of people", do you not understand.

Supposedly, those of you Citizens, who think the United States is the problem have the right to state your thoughts. I, for one, sure as h*ll will not defend your right to say it. I am tired of the "hate America" crap, especially coming from U.S. citizens.
 
  • #78
A Norwegian-Somali woman who exposed the support for female genital mutilation in Norwegian mosques was severely beaten yesterday in downtown Oslo, by representatives of the Religion of Peace™ screaming “Allahu Akbar!”: Kadra attacked in public. (Hat tip: Ulri.)

Norwegian-Somalian Kadra, who became famous in Norway for exposing imam support of female circumcision, was beaten unconscious on Thursday.

Kadra was attacked and beaten senseless by seven or eight persons of Somali origin, newspaper VG reports.

“I was terrified. While I lay on the pavement they kicked me and screamed that I had trampled on the Koran. Several shouted Allah-o-akbar (God is great) and also recited from the Koran,” Kadra told VG.

Kadra linked the attack to recent remarks in VG where she said that the Koran’s views on women needed to be reinterpreted.

Kadra said that the gang of Somali men attacked her around 3 a.m. in downtown Oslo on Thursday. A medical examination found that she had several broken ribs, NRK (Norwegian Broadcasting) reports. Kadra filed charges and was due to speak with police on Friday.
 
  • #79
The Sniper



The sun beat like a hammer, not a cloud was in the sky.

The mid-day air ran thick with dust; my throat was parched and dry.

With microphone clutched tight in hand and cameraman in tow,

I ducked beneath a fallen roof, surprised to hear "Stay low."



My eyes blinked several times before in shadow I could see,

The figure stretched across the rubble, several steps away from me.

He wore a cloak of burlap strips, all shades of gray and brown,

That hung in tatters till he seemed to melt into the ground.



He never turned his head or took his eye from off the scope,

But pointed through the broken wall and down the rocky slope.

"About eight hundred yards," he said, his whispered words concise,

Beneath the baggy jacket he is wearing a device.



A chill ran up my spine despite the swelter of the heat,

"You think he's going to set if off along the crowded street?”

The sniper gave a weary sigh and said "I wouldn't doubt it,

Unless there's something this old gun and I can do about it."



A thunder clap, a tongue of flame, the still abruptly shattered:

While citizens that walked the street were just as quickly scattered.

Till only one remained, a body crumpled on the ground,

The threat to oh so many ended by a single round.



And yet the sniper had no cheer, no hint of any gloat,

Instead he took a logbook out and quietly he wrote.

"Hey I could put you on TV, that shot was quite a story!"

But he surprised me once again- "I got no wish for glory."



"Are you for real?" I asked in awe, "You don't want fame or credit?"

He looked at me with saddened eyes and said "You just don't get it.

"You see that shot-up length of wall, the one without a door?

Before a mortar hit it, it was a grocery store."



"But don't go thinking that to Bomb a store is all that cruel,

The rubble just across the street -it used to be a school.

The little kids played soccer in the field out by the road,"

His head hung low, they never ever thought a car would just explode.



"As bad as all this is though, it could be a whole lot worse,"

He swallowed hard; the words came from his mouth just like a curse.

"Today the fights on foreign land, on streets that aren't my own,"

"I'm here today 'cause if I fail, the next fights back at home."



"And I won't let my Safeway burn, my neighbors dead inside,

Don't want to get a call from school that says my daughter died;

I pray that not a one of them will know the things I see,

Nor have the work of terrorists etched in their memory."



"So you can keep your trophies and your fleeting bit of fame,

I don't care if I make the news, or if they speak my name."

He glanced toward the camera and his brow began to knot,

"If you're looking for a story, why not give this one a shot."



"Just tell the truth of what you see, without the slant or spin:

That most of us are OK and we're coming home again.

And why not tell our folks back home about the good we've done,

How when they see Americans, the kids come at a run."



You tell 'em what it means to folks here just to speak their mind,

Without the fear that that tyranny is just a step behind:

Describe the desert miles they walk in their first chance to vote,

Or ask a soldier if he's proud, I'm sure you'll get a quote."



He turned and slid the rifle in a drag bag thickly padded,

Then looked again with eyes of steel as quietly he added:

"And maybe just remind the few, if ill of us they speak,

That we are all that stands between the monsters and the weak.



by Michael Marks - a Marine - 2006
 
  • #80
That is so much BS. What happened at Abu Ghraib prison is a far cry from what the radical Islamists are doing to their own people. Sensless murder of men, women and children just to promote their brand of religion.
Give me a break. Americans are not the bad guys.

These people want to murder me. These people want to murder you. They want to murder anyone who does not think like them. They are now bombing their own people in Morroco. What part of, "We are at war with a hideous group of people", do you not understand.

Supposedly, those of you Citizens, who think the United States is the problem have the right to state your thoughts. I, for one, sure as h*ll will not defend your right to say it. I am tired of the "hate America" crap, especially coming from U.S. citizens.

PREACH IT!

Lol if I was at the prison you don't even wanna know what I would do. Hell, they wouldn't get to the prison. I'd maybe just go down the street and just shoot at anyone I felt like. I really could care less about them. Does that make me a bad person?
 
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