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    Its a national forest. As far as I know collecting anything would be illegal. I'm not an expert in Florida collection permits, but I believe they will only approve them if you can document research or educational needs not simply you want to take some plants back to your home state. By the way, speaking of drought - we were about 20 inches of rain short of our average last year and are about 8 inches low so far this year- how about all you tourists bring an extra bottle of water when you come, pour it out your car window as you drive through the state and replenish our aquifer?

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    i guess that dosent apply to seeds though...right? MANY people have S. flava from Apalachicola (Liberty County) including me...
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    So, do one of you conservation types or "seed collectors" want to address this?

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    I'm sure that some CP law expert could chime in any time and alert us on this topic...........


    *looks expectantly at the sky*

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    You should really collect only a percentage of the seeds in a pod and scatter the majority on the ground.

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    so next time i go down there. if i wanted some seeds i would take a FEW out of the pod, take the rest then scatter those about the landscape?
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    I believe the answer is no.

    "LEGALLY PROTECTED LANDS

    You should have permission of the property owner or responsible agency for all properties on which you collect plants. This includes:

    Florida State Parks. Natural and cultural resources are protected on all Florida State Park lands and may not be removed without written permission. Collection of materials is only allowed for scientific and educational purposes under the Research/Collection Permit program.

    National Parks. Permission is required to collect plants in U.S. National Parks. The U.S. National Park Service has created a Research Permit and Reporting System web site embedded in the Nature Net / Science sections. The site covers all National Park units in the United States.

    National Forests (USDA, Forest Service). Permission is required to collect plants in National Forests. Applications are evaluated on a case-by-case basis in accordance with current policy and the potential biological impact of the collecting. Researchers should contact the respective forest district or the state national forest office for permit applications. The National Forests in Florida web page provides an overview of the four forests in the state (Apalachicola, Choctawhatchee, Ocala and Osceola) and contact information."

    I know its a cliche, but what if the 84 million tourists to Florida each year took only a few seeds? There are many places to buy seeds or trade seeds, why wild collect?

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    I don't know the laws in Florida or the rules of National parks. I can only tell you the one state that I do know the law and that NC. In NC if remove a plant or seed without written permission, it is considered poaching. The penalty for poaching is $2000 fine and 6 months in jail for each offense. Each plant and each seed is considered a separate offense. I'm sure it's similar in Florida. If you think it's worth $2000 a seed then go ahead.

    I think you'll agree that's it not worth it, so why don't you do the right thing and get a plant with location data. It's a lot cheaper.

    i guess that dosent apply to seeds though...right? MANY people have S. flava from Apalachicola (Liberty County) including me...
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    Most of the seeds were taken years ago, when the are was full of wetlands and cp's. But now that 99% of our wetlands are now shopping malls and golf courses we need to leave what is left in the wild.

    Wait until the upcoming NASC auction and then get all the plants you want.

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