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    No, he is without beginning or end. Always existed since before time and will never cease to be. Very paradoxical.

    No, men are not meant to be the head of the household. It can me a patriarchal family, matriarchal, or a 50/50 split. Mine for example would be matriarchal. Saying that a man is supposed to be the head of the family is very sexist. It was a sexist society back then, and that's why sexism is written into the bible, because man wrote it.

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    Where do you think this political control comes from?
    mob rule?
    not all political control comes from religion. Look at our government, sure some of it might be a little contoled (corrupted) by religion, but some other things are just common sense.

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    No, he is without beginning or end. Always existed since before time and will never cease to be. Very paradoxical.
    yes very paradoxical indeed. But if he always existed since before time and before is relating to something measured in time then that doesn't make any sense.

    How would we know this? what is he made of? energy? atoms? If so then where did they come from? There is no true way to prove God's existance, but then again there is no way to prove that God is nonexistant.

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    No, it doesn't make any sense. But I guess calculus doesn't make any sense to a hamster.







    This is Ephesians 5:22-33. It's really fine, except for telling women to be submissive and saying the husband is the head of the wife, which may be interpreted ( and I do) as the husband is superior to the wide. It's horribly sexist.

    22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

    25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church— 30for we are members of his body. 31"For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh."[b] 32This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustLikeAPill View Post
    No, they came together from hydrocarbon containing compounds A hydrocarbon is made primarily from, you guessed it, hydrogen and carbon. Impure hydrocarbons can be bonded to sulfur, nitrogen, etc. I do believe God made all of us. BUT I believe it took millions of years through evolution, not 24 hours. Why do you put "organic" in quotes? A molecule that contains carbon is organic. God making everything via evolution is a theory called theistic evolution.
    The point I was trying to get at is that you can't fathom it being possible or being realistic that God created things into existence in an instance. That's belittling God.

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    I don't believe I said God was ignorant? I'd love for you to show me exactly where I called God Ignorant. If believe I was talking about and specified people thousands of years ago. God never told us anything. The Bible did. It was inspired by God, written by fallible man. If we should do what God tell us to do and think, according to the bible of course, we would stone our children for disrespecting their parents, kill people for picking up sticks on the sabbath, etc. Come to think of it, everyone who does light work on Saturday should die.
    God did tell us something....and it wasn't to stone our children. Take another look.

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    People do respect darwinism, what people? Pretty much the modern scientific community. Jeez, maybe that's why it's in every textbook in ever secular school in America? Maybe not the Messiah College.

    Good science like what? Show me a better example that makes more scientific sense than evolution. I said scientific sense, so anything involving any deities whatsoever is not credible.
    I'm sorry wrong word, I meant to say evolution not Darwinism.
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    I'm sorry wrong word, I meant to say evolution not Darwinism
    they also respect Evolution as much as any other aspect of science, unless if you were refering people to Christians. If so then what am I? a heathen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmer Dave View Post
    mob rule?
    not all political control comes from religion. Look at our government, sure some of it might be a little contoled (corrupted) by religion, but some other things are just common sense.
    Your not even talking about what me and Ktulu were discussing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmer Dave View Post
    they also respect Evolution as much as any other aspect of science, unless if you were refering people to Christians. If so then what am I? a heathen?
    Evolution is fine until it tries to dictate origin, hence Darwinism.
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