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    CPs - outlet for the demented

    SOO... Anybody else enjoy watching justice served as a spider dies a slow, painful death on a sundew leaf as it goes after an already deceased victim?

    UGH! Spiders!

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    This happens in VFT's too its even better cause their legs will twitch

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    You know...if Hindu's were right, I'd be heading straight for the chicken farm after I died.

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    Hah!

    My Dionaea catch numerous Daddy long legs. Their main meal is a few flies and numerous daddy long legs, tons of legs sticking out of all these traps, basically at least 5 traps in the big pot have daddy long legs caught from the tiny 'Petite Dragons' and the 'Big Mouths' and the Wal-Mart Dionaea that have recovered have at least 2-3 a plant... sometimes it's fun to squish the bodies inside the traps that are filled with digestive enzymes and they are barely alive because you can feel the guts squirting out inside and the legs go wild. Or just plucking off all the legs is sometimes fun.

    Yeah... I have problems. My Drosera do not catch Daddy Long Legs for some reason... I fed a D. capensis one for fun once, it went around it like it normally would then it wrapped around the sides of it so it was like a wrapped around ball... looked cool. A 3 inch wide spider had an egg sack or whatever and got caught by my S. purpurea ssp. venosa var. burkii... a few hours later it died so the sack burst open to immature babies with drowned as well.
    - NeciFiX

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    ...at least I know I'm not the only one with psychological disorders!

    I did feel a little less sadistic after reading this article, though:

    Subject: Do insects feel pain?

    Hi. This is a common question, and it's not entirely philosophical. Pain as WE experience it is based on our nervous system. We have special nerve cells called "nociceptors" whose sole purpose is to create the sensation of pain. Without those special cells, we wouldn't feel pain. There are, in fact, medical conditions which can selectively kill those cells - the best known is leprosy, but there are others. I personally had a mild seizure once that wiped out the connection to the nociceptors in my left leg, and to this day I cannot feel geuine pain in my left leg - I can tell when I'm being touched, and can tell how much pressure is being applied and to how small or large an area, but (for example) there is no difference for me in the feeling of being poked by a pencil versus an icepick, nor any difference in being touched by an ice cube versus a boiling hot piece of metal. Insects and other arthropods don't have any nociceptors. They can feel sensations, but PAIN is definitely NOT one of them. Their responses are therefore very different from ours. Aside from my own personal example of what it's like not to feel pain, consider this: if you gently grab an insect's leg and hold it, it will struggle violently. If you snap the leg off, it stops struggling and calmly limps away. If they felt pain, it would be the exact opposite.
    As for emotions, no, they most definitely do not experience emotions. Things like hunger, thirst, fatigue, and sex drive are not emotions, they are physical sensations.

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    I knew it! It is more like a "O CRAP some ones messing with my leg, I have to get away" sensation, than the actual feeling of pain.

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    Well that's good. But, even my mom was quite moved by the struggling insects in the traps such as Daddy Long Legs and she told me she saw that nature truly could be cruel.

    I just told her the Daddy Long Legs were simply living insect hamburgers for the plant and that's how you should think of it in their position to affix it to our lifestyle .
    - NeciFiX

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    If you wanna try what you're feeding your plant, here are some interesting recipe's:

    http://www.atlantabotanicalgarden.or...ment/bbkp_chef

    Chocolate covered crickets anyone? shivers

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