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Thread: Don't ask John Kerry questions...or else!

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    Est, you raise many great points. The media coverage will be skewed to bash Kerry or some other non-related issue. The issue here was the excessive police force. I do agree with you that the kid made a scene, and when I first saw the video I almost thought he needed to be shut up. The problem is however, that this was a Q & A where the audience was given the chance to speak up. The student may have spoken hastily, but I believe he was trying to lay down as much information as possible. Then some police officers come up on him and try to to grab him. He asks why he's being arrested and they don't respond (nothing that can be heard or seen on the videos at least). They just keep grabbing him and trying to subdue him. I would not have done the same thing in his situation, but I would be outraged at the arrest. Had I acted as this kid did though, I would not expect to be tased.

    Yes I do believe we see eye to eye on much of the issue. In fact Gandhi IS the perfect example of what he should have done once the officers got out of hand (go limp before getting tased). I'm just mostly outraged by the use of the taser, and the fact that the officers were told to throw him out for what he was asking.

    I was thinking about the audience clapping a couple seconds after the officers tried to get the guy. Whether or not they were for or against the guy, they got serious and some were telling them to stop with the excessive force. This is especially so, once they start tasing him and he's already pinned on the ground. In the second video you can hear a few people telling them to stop.

    The guy IS a retard for acting the way he did, but his actions still, in my opinion, did not warrant the use of a taser once he was already on the ground.
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    Phew! I feel safe. I picked up my very own John Kerry Speech survival kit! Inside is a cop horn to stop them from coming near you, an informational guide on how to ask questions to avoid being tased, and a shirt that says, "Don't Taze me Bro!" I'll be okay if I ever decide to go to one.
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    They say they're non lethal but they have been used to kill ("subdue" the cops say). They are especilly dangerous t persons with heart problems.
    you know, i had a friend who dated a girl with what we will call a "crazy switch". one day she got drunk and started to smack people and the police were called. when they arrived, they tried to settle her down, and she started smacking the cops, so she was tazered. she would not stop, her blind rage could not be subdued. she was tazed repeatedly for over 20 minutes while the police struggled to get her cuffed and in the back of a police car. she probably weighed about 90 lbs, and was fine the next day. you cannot "taze someone in the heart". the prods stick in less than an inch in your skin, and the current applied (which is the heart stopping aspect of electricity) is not enough to cause an arc that would disrupt heart function unless perhaps the prods were on opposing sides of the body, such as on the chest and back, which is not possible. it could interact with a pacemaker, but i don't understand how anyone with a pacemaker would be stupid enough to get to the point of tazering by the police.

    you know, i dont understand why some people have such issues with police. finch is right in saying they cant win. yes, it is true that there are bad cops out there who make grievous mistakes, but not all cops are bad.

    you just gotta ask yourself, if you hate them all so much, how would you feel if they simply weren't there?
    if i were ruler of the world, anyone who defined a nepenthene as a "companion plant" to orchids would be fired from a cannon atop mt. kinabalu.

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    I'd be happy until something bad happened. Then I'd have the freedom to take the law into my own hands. Or pay someone else to

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    I wonder if it's because this is the first war in which most people aren't affected. No one I know (nor myself) has been affected and the only change in our lives is gas prices and more war related stuff on the news.

    It does seem like America is turning into a dictatorship. Free speach zones? Come on. Reminds me of some futuristic dystopian novel. At least soon we'll all have free health care and we can all get soma ....Did I say soma? I MEAN PROZAC!



    JK, I think government HC is good.

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    The words universal health care sound like some Utopian dream. Imagine health care for everyone. Do you really think the quality of health care a universal health care system funded by the government will be good? Chances are we'll be worse off with crappy health care and at the same time more taxes...
    James 1:17

    "Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outsiders71 View Post
    Do you really think the quality of health care a universal health care system funded by the government will be good?
    It's better than none at all.

    xvart.
    "The tragedy of life is not that every man loses; but that he almost wins."

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