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    im not conditioned to take a hit.....been in a few fights but not conditioned to take a hit, just know its not going to bother me......alot of ppl can not really take a hit to the jaw, atleast not the ppl your likely to get in a fight with......dont have alot of pain nerves in my jaw, same with most my family, hell ive seen my mom extracts her own bad teeth.....in several incidets ive had this proven to me about my personal lack of pain nerves, atleast associated with the bone, joints or teeth......neither time i partially dislocated my jaw did it hurt, i just popped it back in....have shattered a tooth due to a clumsy idiot helping me move furnature and never noticed that half my tooth was gone till my tongue happened to move across the missing piece and exposed nerve....lost a tooth messing around with my baby sister....whole tooth got pulled out roots and all and i didnt notice it till my mouth filled with blood.....never felt a twinge of pain.....talked to a dentist and he told me its not abnormal, not common but he does see it.....yah cant really hit me anywhere in the head, other than busting my nose and have it hurt me enough to stop a fight.....yah can hit me in the temple good enough to make me hallucinate fairly easy but that doesnt kick in for 10 or 15 minutes......and ive never seen a real knock down drag out fight last that long.....
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    Ya don’t need to convince me you can take a hit, man. I believed ya the first time. I was just wondering how much is influenced by genetics, or if there is something else at work in regards to who can take a hit and who cant. I was more of musing that you cant tell who can and who cant by how tough they talk and such, how bad they think they are… wasn’t referring to you.
    that makes no logic

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    gotcha.............im not one to talk tough.....as i said i really have no interest getting into a fight...it is not fun....was mainly pointing out differences i have seen when it comes to actual fighting more so than sport....
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    Does anyone have any experiences they wanna share?
    All fear violence, all are afraid of death.
    Seeing the similarity to oneself, one should not use violence or have it used.
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    Most martial arts are good for a few purposes, like teaching basic self defense moves, and strengthening your body (an excellent aspect of it). The discipline teaching is also a very good aspect... Problem is, most of the times that you will need to defend yourself, you will be at a serious disadvantage: the attacker has a weapon, there is multiple attackers, or you are flat out, out-skilled. As far as martial arts go these days, they are mainly being used for entertainment purposes. Even then, many of the so-called champions have been beat outside of the ring by average people. When you need get into trouble outside of a controlled martial arts match, people are playing for keeps. They don't stop when the referee tells them to. They hit below the belt, they pull hair, gouge eyes, and bite your face. You want to defend yourself? I got a HK USP .45 that I can rely on... it can take out multiple armed attackers. No level of Brazilian, regular, mythical, or fairy jiu jitsu will do that.

    Edit: I just want to say that I do not condone the irresponsible use of firearms. Firearms should be used as a last resort measure. In most cases simply pulling out a gun will end an attack, and therefore human lives can be spared/saved. It is good to know some basic self-defense moves, as many of these moves can disable a person without the need for excessive injury. I am simply saying, since I have been reading a lot about the efficacy of these different arts, that one should not solely rely on physical tactics. Oh yeah btw, BJJ specialists have been beat left and right. They are excellent at groundwork, but there IS always someone out there who can beat someone else. Even the best of the best will have their off-days, and then there is someone who they could once beat, that now beats them. To sit here and say that one form is the best, or better than others is just mental masturbation. The true efficacy of any form is completely reliant on the practitioner, and since no two people are alike, no true comparison can be made.
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    there is no real elite of people who are genetically superior in that than anyone else.
    Wrong. Example: Samoans. Samoan men used to settle arguments by clubbing each other in the head/face with large wooden clubs. Obviously, this killed the ones with weaker/less dense bone structure. Natty selection did its job, and thats why Samoan men have large dense jaw/skull bones.

    Look up hard body breakers....something like that. These two brothers have conditioned their bones to be insanely dense by repeatedly traumatizing them, and can break through feet of concrete with a single blow.


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    I wish Bugweed was here now. I'm sure he'd be having a good chuckle at all the folks going "bloody 'em up some and show them what's what!"

    Bug's got a great story about how his Aikido saved his life when he was confronted by several armed assailants. Did he kill one of them? Naw. Did he break on of their bones? Naw. Did he shoot anyone? Heck, was anyone seriously injured? Nope.

    Did this punks learn a good lesson? Sure did.

    But I suppose that some folks will prefer to rely on the "might makes right" side of the spectrum and that's just the way it is...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Est View Post
    I wish Bugweed was here now. I'm sure he'd be having a good chuckle at all the folks going "bloody 'em up some and show them what's what!"

    Bug's got a great story about how his Aikido saved his life when he was confronted by several armed assailants. Did he kill one of them? Naw. Did he break on of their bones? Naw. Did he shoot anyone? Heck, was anyone seriously injured? Nope.

    Did this punks learn a good lesson? Sure did.

    But I suppose that some folks will prefer to rely on the "might makes right" side of the spectrum and that's just the way it is...
    Akido is a fairly good martial arts form, and is based on using your opponents energy and momentum against them. I in fact practiced it (along with Jiu Jitsu and Hapkido) for 3 years before moving. I imagine the "Did he shoot anyone" comment was aimed at me, but I am not advocating that. I strongly believe it is important to know how to handle yourself physically in many situations. In fact I said "simply pulling out a gun will end an attack", and therefore he wouldn't even had to have thrown the punks around (a common tactic in akido as it involves many throws). Anywho, I just wanted to clear that up in case that part of your comment was geared towards me. Don't get me wrong though, if someone tries to hurt me or innocent people, they do have a chance of getting their face blown off.

    A side note: A major reason why I believe physical defense (martial arts) is a good supplement to personal protection, is because many attacks are initiated at a short range and a safe and reliable draw of a firearm may not always be feasible. One however, should not solely rely on martial arts as protection, just as one should not solely rely on the police for protection. The phrase "an analog player in a digital world" comes to mind.
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