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    Whats it to ya? Finch's Avatar
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    Substitute one learning fashion for another, if you wish. It has been shown that TV and computer games do have a negative effect on toddler attention span’s, that there is no doubt. So skip the fancy stuff and go for something else that rewards the child for making something (if only for a more spectacular knockdown). Like a sandbox, or those large brightly colored cardboard building blocks that are lightwight, cannot be swallowed or harm the child if it falls, but can be used to build absolutely massive structures to the ceiling or to hide under… or engulf the dog. Those learning toys spoke of are limited in scope - you should teach it yourself to bond, not let an inanimate object do the teaching for you. Those things where the limits of the potential are only the child's imagination is infinitely reusable, because there are infinite ways to put it together (you cant "beat" building blocks). And children will learn to read and their colors in time, what importance is it if it is at 2 or 4, in the end?
    that makes no logic

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    We're thankfully making some progress toward curbing the pollution of the physical environment, but our mental environment is a roaring river of sewage rising higher every day, unobstructed.

    I can't decide which is ultimately more dangerous.

    It's going to be a very strange world 20 years from now.

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    Who said I was against young children learning?? I'm willing to bet a human being taught your children to sign. Right? You didn't sit Laurel in front of a computer when she was baby with an ASL program. Didn't your Mom teach her?

    Children learn waaay faster than adults. And I have NEVER thought babies CAN'T learn. They are learning from the minute they take their first breath.

    I just think children should be children and PLAY to have fun. If they learn doing it...great! If not, that's ok too. You can accelerate a baby or child's early learning but at some point, they will come to be at the level they would normally be for their age and cognitive powers. In other words, if your child has the big colored buttons to slap at when they are 1 ...and learns to count to 100 at 2 yrs old....he/she will probably still not be in the 7th grade when they are 6.

    Let kids be kids! Don't be so all-fired set on them knowing how to use a computer before they are 2. I don't think young children NEED to be introduced to sitting in front of a computer screen when they are still babies. I'm not against early learning...I just don't think babies and toddlers need COMPUTERS.

    REALLY...your kids will be JUST fine even if they don't have the latest and greatest in kiddie komputers. Most of that stuff is just marketing ploys to SELL stuff to parent's who are scared their kid won't be on par with other kids.

    t has been shown that TV and computer games do have a negative effect on toddler attention span’s, that there is no doubt.
    What he said.
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    First off, I find it interesting that some people in this topic don't even have children. Sure you have views, but they change when you have kids... Trust me. Even if you're around kids alot (nephews whatever...) If I'm mistaken, and some of you younger folks have kids... I'm sorry in advanced for my assumption.

    Second, I'd like to point to a article that points out there are people on both sides of this... Some thing learning computer stuff is good.. others not. My views seem to lie closely to those of Clea Winneg in the article. But I lean more so toward the computers are good... We see how much they are used by everyone now... and as time goes by, it will only become more.

    http://school.familyeducation.com/co...ogy/30195.html


    I've already said that I think both forms of learning are helpful. So to those that think my kids don't have blocks and other forms of stuff for imagination use are way off base. All the cushions from our furniture, and every blanket in the house have, quite a few times, became the best fort in the world... Digging in the sand at the park next to "ahma and pappy's" house happens plenty often as well. And occasionally, they get up on my computer and bang the heck out of it to hear all the neat sounds Windows makes when it doesn't understand what you want it to do... The more experiences they have, the better I say.

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    Admin- I'm growing CPs in the Desert of Tucson, Az. adnedarn's Avatar
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    Whoops PAK's response got in there while I was working on the above...


    Actually, my wife and I taught her with the help of a website that had small video clips showing the moves....

    I didn't say YOU didn't think they could learn.. but that was "fact" back during the era that I spoke to people about.

    You say children should be children and play and have fun... my kids do find these devices fun. They bring them wanting to play. So mommy or daddy (sometimes both) sit and play it with her (them). So isn't this something your are for?

    Again, these are not actually "computers" just an electronic toy with a screen... And some happen to use your TV as the screen. (aka a teaching tool... just like blocks, flashcards, etc.) So if the game wants your child to select the green circle, and that happens to be the middle of 3, and so the child hits the middle button... Is that much different than setting out 3 blocks and asking for the green one?

    Of course the kids will be fine. As long as they know what they NEED TO KNOW to enter school ON TIME I'm happy. If they are excited about learning.. you're darn right I'm going to teach them more than is "required" by the school. I will not be one of those parents though, that thinks my kids only need to play and "be kids" just to find out they are behind, and need to enter school late. Proven fact: kids that start late, never catch up.

    Also, I'm unaware of this tv/computer causes negative effects on attention span... Could anyone share a tad bit on that? What I do know... Is they will stop in mid stride to see certain commercials and such. That seems to catch attention

    Andrew


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    And sometimes... they just gotta get dirty!!! (from Caiden's bday party)
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    So why does drawing from my own childhood or helping raise my little sister make my opinions invalid. I find the suggestion that it does rather offensive. Not as relevant as your experiences, yes, but not invalid.


    Also, I'm unaware of this tv/computer causes negative effects on attention span... Could anyone share a tad bit on that? What I do know... Is they will stop in mid stride to see certain commercials and such. That seems to catch attention
    http://www.mindscience.org/murray_infancy.html
    http://www.neuropsychiatryreviews.co...cessiveTV.html
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...tomstrip_x.htm
    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0183143AA5Y892
    Young children often are mesmerized by the TV screen, says study leader Dimitri Christakis, a pediatrician at Children's Hospital and Regional Medical Center in Seattle. The possible link between watching TV and attention problems is of great concern because so many infants and toddlers are frequent viewers, he says.

    The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends no TV for children younger than 2 and no more than two hours of high-quality programming for older kids. Many children watch much more TV.
    that makes no logic

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    Not invalid Finch... But I don't know a single person that has all the same views before and after children. As a child, my family (my mom, dad, brother, sister, and me) raised foster children. (Children taken from their parents for whatever reason) We always had 5 foster children under the age of 5 in our house, outside of my family. we did this for about 8 years. And we (the kids) were VERY involved in helping with these kids. From sitting with the therapists that would come and work with the kids (since most were developmentally slow) to help bring them up to par, to the nightly dishes, bath time, changing diapers etc... Anyway, I had way more experience raising kids than any other kid I knew. And the views I have now don't match what I had, right up to having kids. Trust me, when they're yours... it's different.

    I guess it's kinda like the people who put down Chevy trucks... Even though they've only ever owned a Ford. Sure, they know the Ford has (for the most part) performed well for them... and they have ridden in their friends Chevy truck... But once you own the Chevy for yourself... it's different. Fill in whatever comparison you want here... but since I was talking trucks with some friends tonight, that's on my mind

    Andrew

    PS come to think of it.. maybe it was all my experience with these 5 year olds that could barely tell you they were hungry and barely even potty trained, has pushed me to make sure my kids won't be there. The struggles these kids had to go through in order to try and catch up were unbelievable. And to toss in the fact that they're not with their parents and would get a 3 hour weekly visit at most... These kids have a hard time. And what did the therapists bring and suggest for the kids? A combination of the simple stuff (balance ball,the shapes you put in the holes,the things you move from side to side on the metal rod, etc), and electronic stuff (Things that spoke with buttons, colors, words etc).
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    Oh, you added links now... The first paragraph in your first link supports my views, does it not?
    Viewing carefully designed programs for preschool age children, such as Sesame Street and Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood, can have positive effects on social skills and academic preparation that enhance children’s development in preschool, early school years and even into adolescence. At the same time, early use of screen media in infancy and toddlerhood, without the intensive support of parents and other caregivers,can disrupt the development of social skills that are normally acquired through consistent and continuous interaction with parents and significant others in the infant’s environment.
    And

    Most of the concern about this early viewing and screen time has focused on the lack of interactivity between the infant and toddler and his or her caregiver.
    but this is about TV programming.. I'm aiming more toward the part of electronic learning devices, since that's what this topic is about. The other 3 urls seem to speak directly about watching TV alot. Again, we're not discussing that, and I agree kids shouldn't be sitting in front of a TV all day watching programs.

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