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    I don't think two men or women getting married is nearly the same as murder.
    I skimmed that website and I saw a statement that said some studies found that 50% of men who have sex with other men will contract HIV by age 50. This seems a bit high to me.... Then a little further down it implied that if a gay couple adopts, one or both people will have mental issues or a substance abuse problem... come on. Further down it says that the parents will be in denial of the dangers they have caused the child by adopting him/her, and the kid could have mental problems because they don't know why they are attracted to the opposite sex. Please. I'll be honest. I didn't read it in it's entirety. A cursory glance let me know all I suspected before I went there.

    I knew I shouldn't have clicked on a link starting with EWTN That material was just as silly as some of the stuff in their programming. Maybe the people at EWTN should adopt the children themselves instead of refusing to use birth control and having one after another the old fashioned way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outsiders71 View Post
    This isn't 1960 and this is not relevant to "separate but equal" which dealt with segregation of race in schools.



    I agree lets allow murdering to be legal, it's time for change.
    This is relevant. It's a civil rights issue.

    I said it's not right to go by tradition for tradition's sake. Murder is illegal for the sake of order.

    I'm not even going to touch on the article you referenced. It's possibly one of the worst skews of gay marriage ever written. It is extremely offensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outsiders71 View Post

    Rattler: Do you believe men are different from women or are we all the same?
    her's a question.......................how many women do you intimatly know? i do not me in a sexual way either. i mean how many women do you know on a very personal level? how many guys?

    i can think of two women i know very intimatly personally, out of the half dozen ill say i do know very well, one is my wife, one is a good friend i helped through a very difficult time just being a good friend and a shoulder to cry on. these two women are damn near polar opposites. anatomically they are the same sure.....psychologically speaking they are as different as men and women. both are quite capable parents and their kids show it. one is a very prissy lady the other will knock you on your rear when and if the mood strikes her, she acts more like one of the guys than one of the girls. infact has very few women friends cause she cant stand the catty BS that goes on in most womens circles.

    by and large your reasoning makes no sense Outsiders. by your reasoning single parents should not be allowed to keep their kids unless the immediately remarry. face it you are letting your personal religious beliefs cloud your judgments. i dont have any beef with your religious beliefs....i know they are extreamly important to some ppl and thats fine. i have no problem. but your trying to force your ideals on a world thats f'ed up and they are not going to work for every situation. my best advise to you is to know your beliefs, practice your beliefs but all in all gay marriage is not going to affect you.....it might affect your sensibilities but it will not affect you personally
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    Damnit Rattler, and here I was beginning to think I had found my antagonist.

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    whats that mean?
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    Well, 2nd amendment argument got rather heated, but we're on the level here.

    Really, gay marriage is my biggest issue, so you're alright in my book.

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    you want a no BS take on me? all i care about are individual freedoms..........i hate wellfare states. i am not gay but i know gay ppl i have no issue about what goes on in someones house so long as they are of the age of consent and no one gets hurt. by the same token i dont want someone telling me i cant smoke a funny smellin cigarette or that i cant have what guns i want. i am perfectly capable of making moral desitions that affect me and mine and dont need some goon in Washington DC or Helena for that matter, telling me what i can and cant do in my own house if no one is getting hurt or if the only person being hurt is me. the very foundation all these beliefs are built on is the right to bear arms. if i do not have the means to protect me and mine from from goons from the government who take offence to my liking to bang my head against the wall be cause if i die from it they cant collect taxes or protect my family from the psycho who moved in down the street that decideds he has a fetish for a 12 year olds middle toe on a necklace. without firearms there is no freedom. if you cant make a stand and decide your willing to die for your freedom and actually do something about it, you just have the illusion of freedom...............thats why i get worked up over the 2nd amendment.....above all the others it means freedom
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustLikeAPill View Post
    And using anything spiritual to make an argument for a decision, no matter what it may be, in the public sector is absurd. It's irrelevant. If marriage was all that spiritual, the divorce rate wouldn't be 50% What is this, Saudi Arabia?
    You're right and that's why I listed it last but it still can be used in this argument and I'll tell you why. Regardless if you believe in Jesus, or marriage in God's eyes, there are many people who do as I. To us it is something sacred and something God instituted, it's the covenant of a man and woman who are put together by God, for the glory of God. Marriage is one of the best things God's given us. Now there's a contemporary gay movement that wants to alter the definition of marriage, something many people hold sacred and not just some kind of legal contract or document for legal rights. You betcha there's going to be a little opposition. Yet the gays are completely blind to the fact that they are assaulting an institution of God, but the believers are the bad guys for standing up for something they believe in.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustLikeAPill View Post
    Why is it that so many support a ban on gay marriage, yet so few propose a ban on divorce? Why is it that some of the same supporters of a federal marriage amendment have been divorced themselves? Where is this "sanctity"? I think marriage lost any "sanctity" as soon as the government stepped in in the first place. It then became a legal contract. Now I don't know about you guys, but nothing says turn off like a prenup!
    I fully agree with all of this.
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