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    with Obama:

    Strengthen NATO to face 21st-century threats. (Aug 2007)
    Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
    Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998)
    Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)
    Support granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. (Nov 2007)
    Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. (May 2006)
    Voted YES on increasing minimum wage to $7.25. (Feb 2007)
    Voted YES on raising the minimum wage to $7.25 rather than $6.25. (Mar 2005)
    Voted NO on confirming Samuel Alito as Supreme Court Justice. (Jan 2006)
    Voted NO on confirming John Roberts for Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. (Sep 2005)
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    Many things in this world can't be proven. Even calculus is theoretical. But it works.

    There is plenty of evidence for evolution coming from many different sources.

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    evolution is easy enough to find evidance for...............how everything got kick started is open to debate
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    and for the record, on Thompson i dislike:
    Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)
    Voted YES on Amendment to prohibit flag burning. (Dec 1995)
    Voted YES on spending international development funds on drug control. (Jul 1996)
    Voted YES on defunding renewable and solar energy. (Jun 1999)
    Voted YES on enlarging NATO to include Eastern Europe. (May 2002)(BTW on the NATO stuff...i hate NATO with a passion)
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    so why do i like Thompson over Obama when in this thread i said im all for same sex marriage? cause as president i think Thompson will/can do jack chit about same sex marriage.....however who Obama appoints to the Supreme court can and will have a negative impact on me.............
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    How so? What position of Obama would translate to the Supreme Court that would negatively impact you?

    Capslock

    EDIT: Nevermind I see now from the last page. I'd submit that Obama would do as much about gun control as Thompson would do on gay marriage.

    Outsiders: Evolution is a fact, the specific mechanics are a scientific theory, as opposed to creationism or ID. It is not taken on faith at all, but backed by mountains of evidence, and observed in the lab. I know you may not accept that due to your religious beliefs, but the scientific community has LONG since moved on from this so-called controversy. I'd like to know if my Presidential candidate is going to put religious pandering above good science, and it's frankly a good barometer issue.
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    i agree Obama himself wouldnt do much about gun control.....but who he appoints to the supreme court could.....the justices he disapproved of have a solid record of voting for the constitution and not for personal beliefs. we have one case now going before the supreme court on gun control(the Washington DC case) and for the first time in i dont know how long we(gun owners) are pretty dang sure it will go our way. because of Alito and Roberts will side with the constitution. and when that gets through i expect several other cases to make their way infront of the Supreme Court.............so who ever Obama appoints to the supreme court if he gets a chance can really screw things up for gun owners. and im not talking making machine guns legal....im talking the basic right to own a gun to defend yourself
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    Who cares what their religious beliefs are as long as they don't make policy based on it?
    The problem is the last part - too many politicians DO make policy based on their faith, especially the Republicans due to the influence of the American Taliban. Therefore, I'd like to know which particular invisible man they plan on cramming down my throat if elected.

    There's a difference in being educated in the sciences and accepting something in the science field by faith. Yes, science requires faith as well, which many people fail to comprehend. Evolution is a theory, it can't be proven and must be accepted by faith. However the every day Joe, especially ones that disregard God, somehow come to the false belief that evolution is true and proven. Ask any scientist to prove evolution and they'll tell you it can't be proven, it's only a theory and that it is the best explanation they can come up with from observation.
    Wrong. Evolution is actually *both* fact and theory.

    The fact of evolution is that organisms change over time and that species arise from new species. Both of these have been *directly* observed, and cannot be disputed.

    The theory of evolution is our understanding of the mechanism of these changes, and we have enough understanding to be able to actually predict changes, their rate, and how fast they spread through a population.

    You want to know the interesting thing? We have a more thorough understanding of how evolution occurs than of how gravity works.

    Also, there is no 'faith' in science beyond that empirically derived results reflect reality. God is not involved - evolution and science specify nothing about the existence of God or lack thereof.

    Finally, there are a total of zero working biologists who think ID/creationism are anything but laughable. And before you even think of disputing this, I've heard ID mentioned repeatedly at scientific meetings, and every time it was followed by laughter. Real scientists laugh at creationism.

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