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    Hillary sure in the hell aint a Democrat, she is a socialist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningBeard View Post
    Voting in todays day and age is like trying to polish a turd.
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    a congress that doesnt accomplish anything is a good congress..............
    I don't have anything constructive to add here; but, I just wanted to say that these two comments made my night! Hilarious.

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    I tend to think that there are 4 parties these days. There are the religious republicans who seize the votes of christians. There are the fiscal republicans who actually don't want to inject their own agendas. There are the special interest democrats/republicans. Special interest candidates don't even fall into dem/rep anymore. Then there are the true somewhat liberal democrats.

    The second and fourth are pretty much dead unfortunately. I wouldn't mind a fiscal conservative even though I'm a democrat, but gay marriage is a big topic for me. That's something that should be recognized as a civil right, and made nationally legal. I don't care if it's against your religious beliefs, those should be kept separate from law. If the hardcore christians are right, then they're all going to hell anyway. America is not founded on christianity, it's founded on the rights of people. Any law denying a civil right is an unamerican law.

    So I'd have to break from Paul there. Some issues should be left to states, others to the nation as a whole. It's not an amazing revelation.

    Abortion is a topic where I can see both sides of the issue. I support the pro-choice movement, but I'm not as zealous about it as I am about gay marriage. Suppose my opinion might be stronger if I was a chick. That, or if I had just knocked up a girl an hour ago. Although, partial birth abortion's kinda sick.

    Now, everyone hates spending money. I know. But seriously. We need taxes. They pay for all the public stuff you use. Quit whining. Now, I wouldn't be against a plan to make sales tax progressive, but that'd be a hell of an undertaking.

    The second amendment is a relic. It's time we realize that. The forefathers had some great ideas, but they didn't see the 20th century coming. The freaking amendment says "in order to keep a well regulated militia." We don't need a militia anymore, it's time that gets revised, that's all I'm saying. Nobody needs an M-16 or a mac-10 for hunting or even self defense.

    So yeah. Ron Paul revolution, I don't think so. Though he's better than some of the fools up there.

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    the 2nd amendment isnt dead..................look at the IRA..........couple hundred individuals with small arms F'ed up the British government for years. the 2nd Amendment is what gives the rest of them teeth. if the 2nd amendment only applies to muzzle loading rifles of the era than freedom of the press only applies to a hand set type press and speech. the founding fathers ment for the average citizen to be as well armed as any federal army and if you dont believe that PLEASE read the letters Jefferson and Washington and some of the others sent back and forth. also the right to bear arms isnt a right given to us by the government on their whim............its the right of the ppl as human beings just like the freedom of speech or the freedom of religion.
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    Unfortunately I fear except for ron paul, there is a wind from every candidate to erode states rights… it just depends on what. And im not too keen on ron paul either.

    The second amendment… we won our nationhood in a guerrilla war… of course we want our citizens to fight for themselves- that’s how we got here today. But nuclear weapons and tanks did not exist back then, either, but yu don’t hear any private citizen asking for those anyways so the point I suppose is moot.

    If people can beat America in a guerrilla war, America can beat anyone in a guerrilla war!


    As for hillary (why ARE female candidates reffered to by their first name and men by their last? When have you heard bush called george? ) i have not heard about newyork state suddenly becoming socialist under her govenership.
    that makes no logic

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    Hillary(called such to distinguish her from her hubby, just like Bush is often referred to as "W" to distinguish to him from his dad)was big on becoming senator to further her ambitions to be president....hell she was making rumblings about being president when her hubby was still in office. she is a socialist. plain and simple, thats easy to see cause of her own words, the book she wrote and her history. as for New York not becoming a socialist state while she is in congress. well, thats cause she is in the federal guberment not the state, she is trying to change things on a national level, not just New York......and for the record...New York City elected her for congress, most of New York outside of the major cities wanted nothing to do with her.....just like most the state isnt interested in most the crazy buggers to gome out of the cities anywhere in the states be it New York, Pennsylvania, California or Montana.............hell i hate most the idiots in the state legilature here that come out of the cities in the state....most are out of touch with reality
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    BTW main reason im against Hillary is NOT cause she is a democrat, hell when it comes down to it having Ron Paul as president wont change much during his presidency if(and thats a big if) he was elected. what Ron Paul in the president seat would change is give most the current politicians a beotch slap in the face and maybe get some good strong states rights type candidates to run and actually get into congress where change for the good can happen. what scares me most about Hillary for president is the democrat controlled congress at the moment. a democrat president and a democrat congress is a bad thing, just like i believe the republican president and republican congress was a bad thing a few years back........
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    hehe ill read your response tomorrow. I have a exam at 6 in the morning and this was my 'break' and my roommate got into a bad accident somewhere between here and his house and all i know about the accident is he may or may not have been drunk and this photo and that he is "thankful to be alive".
    that makes no logic

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