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    Solar Panels need to be improved to harness more energy. Right now there is an effort to swap out the components and elements in a solar panel to increase efficiency. So far in small test samples researchers have been able to vastly improve the efficacy. Of course this does not mean that solar energy is the all around solution, rather it is just one of many. What would be nice to see is the price of solar panels reduced so that an increasing number of people can put them on top of their houses, thereby eliminating the need for more land.

    As for the automobile industry, well there are other ways of increasing fuel efficiency other than weight, but you are right: it is a huge factor. Light and cheap can still be safe though. Using better design, engineered more for performance and less for aesthetics, structural elements can vastly improve the safety of a car. Anywho, this is likely never going to happen because of the vested interests in the powers that be. The good old status quo.

    As for that carbuerator, I think PK only said 40 MPG, not that I have any take on the story either way, just clarifying.
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    still from 9 to 40 by simply switching out a carb is about impossible, unless you want to give it the power of a moped.......i could see 9 to maybe 20.....but those big engines old use alot of gas, there is no way around that.
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    Nepenthes....i to believe solar panels can work on a small scale like individual homes and such, but to think they will work for powering the big cities here hundreds of ppl can be in one building is nieve. nuclear power is a better option there.....the newer nuculer power plants are small, efficient, and dont have nearly as much radioactive material as the old ones.....complete and total melt downs are nearly impossible short of complete and total sabotage. and at that point now, so lil radioactive material is involved its far more impactive to destroy the large oil refineries.
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    Sir you have not been keeping up on recent technological leaps in the field of solar power. The old solar power of even a few years ago is far less efficient than the prototypes they are developing these days. You shouldn’t shoot improving technology down before it even gets off the ground. a 75% increase in efficiency from 5 years ago and more on the way is nothing to dismiss.

    Edit: but not one one building, i agree.

    Nuclear power has a horrible stigma, but its time to get over it, i agree.
    that makes no logic

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    I've heard the story about the oil company conspiracy, but I don't entirely buy it. I find it much more beleivable that the poor efficiency norms/standards in cars come from a lack of economic and political intitiative (due to cheap gas).

    I heard somewhere that "alternative" energy cars or super small cars will not be profitable in the USA until gas reaches $8/gallon. Prices are near that in Europe, hence the greater push for innovation in European cars.

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    I'm willing to blame oil companies for all kinds of things, but suppressing incredibly efficient carburetors isn't on the list. Maybe we should tax vehicles by the pound and houses by the cu ft.
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    I'm also not a big fan of corn energy, er.. ethanol. It's so profitable for farmers that they are diverting precious corn to energy rather than to food market, driving up food costs. Bleh.

    I have a friend who is really into solar energy and 'living off the grid' as much as possible. He is able to make more than enough electricity for himself each month, and the local electrical utility buys the extra from him - so he's being paid by the electrical company! Fantastic! I'm very interested in using solar energy eventually also, but for now the cost is still prohibitive to me.

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    I have a friend who is really into solar energy and 'living off the grid' as much as possible. He is able to make more than enough electricity for himself each month, and the local electrical utility buys the extra from him - so he's being paid by the electrical company! Fantastic! I'm very interested in using solar energy eventually also, but for now the cost is still prohibitive to me.
    yeah i know of a number of ppl who have done so.....as i said i know it works on small sacle such as a single house.....have my doubts on working large scale, atleast not without giving up lots of land devoted to solar arrays at which point i would rather have a nuclear power plant......tons more energy produced in a much smaller area
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