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    As I said in the other thread,
    I consider myself a Conservative, and a Christian, but not necessarily a "Conservative Christian" in the political sense because I strongly believe in keeping all religion out of politics.
    I support Republicans in nearly all areas of policy, EXCEPT when it comes to "intelligent design vs. evolution" and forcing religious beliefs into schools and public policy..
    I believe in evolution, I support gay marriage because its the right thing to do and religion should have no part in that debate, and I believe the "Religious Right" as a political group is just as insane and dangerous as the "Al-gore wacko fringe left"..
    fortunately both groups are somewhat small..(although Al's religion is growing more powerfull all the time..unfortunately.)

    So I never really liked Huckabee..
    and the recent "Mormon issue" totally soured me on him..
    now I dont support him at all..
    he used the "mormon issue" as a political weapon, using religion as a means to gain political power..and he did it deliberately behind the scenes while smiling at the camera and denying he was doing it.
    he lied...that brought him right down to Bill Clintons "I did not have sex with that woman" level...

    and I think Huckabee screwed his chances of being president with this issue..
    sure, the fringe nutcase right will still support him, but mainstream Christians will be turned off by his using of Christianity as a tool to bring himself up and bring an opponent down..thats just wrong...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mokele View Post
    Yeah, he's got such good judgment that he helped free a multiple rapist/murderer, who promptly raped and murdered someone.

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/05/huckabee.dumond/

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    If you cared to watch the links he addresses this and other attacks on him by the Romney campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepenthusiast View Post
    I find it hard to like anyone who uses their faith as a wepeon to persuade others...
    Well then you obviously don't know who Huckabee is because he isn't running on his faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottychaos View Post
    As I said in the other thread,
    I consider myself a Conservative, and a Christian, but not necessarily a "Conservative Christian" in the political sense because I strongly believe in keeping all religion out of politics.
    I support Republicans in nearly all areas of policy, EXCEPT when it comes to "intelligent design vs. evolution" and forcing religious beliefs into schools and public policy..
    I believe in evolution, I support gay marriage because its the right thing to do and religion should have no part in that debate, and I believe the "Religious Right" as a political group is just as insane and dangerous as the "Al-gore wacko fringe left"..
    fortunately both groups are somewhat small..(although Al's religion is growing more powerfull all the time..unfortunately.)

    So I never really liked Huckabee..
    and the recent "Mormon issue" totally soured me on him..
    now I dont support him at all..
    he used the "mormon issue" as a political weapon, using religion as a means to gain political power..and he did it deliberately behind the scenes while smiling at the camera and denying he was doing it.
    he lied...that brought him right down to Bill Clintons "I did not have sex with that woman" level...

    and I think Huckabee screwed his chances of being president with this issue..
    sure, the fringe nutcase right will still support him, but mainstream Christians will be turned off by his using of Christianity as a tool to bring himself up and bring an opponent down..thats just wrong...


    Scot
    Good job buying the mainstream media propaganda that he's using his faith to take him to the presidency. You obviously haven't seen any interviews with him.
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    why i dont like Huckabee:

    No states rights for moral issues like abortion. (Nov 2007)
    Gay tolerance reflects lack of fixed societal standards. (Jun 2007)
    Respect gay couples but no gay adoptions. (Jan 2007)
    Signed legislation outlawing same-sex marriage in Arkansas. (Dec 2006)
    Eliminating parole gives no incentive for rehabilitation. (Jan 2007)
    Marriage relationship between one man, one woman, for life. (Sep 2007)
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    The man makes me sick. He said "homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk."

    Even if he believes that it's aberrant, unnatural, and sinful, that's one thing. But for a public official to SAY that? C'mon. It's just uncouth, and something a politician should not say. Bringing any mention of the concept of "sin", no matter what your views are, no matter what the issue, or what your party is, is uncalled for. And calling it a public health risk is just silly. I don't want to be led by a man who can't separate religion from politics.

    Anyone remember Wayne Dumond? I blame that directly on Huckabee. The man needed to be in prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustLikeAPill View Post
    The man makes me sick. He said "homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk."

    Even if he believes that it's aberrant, unnatural, and sinful, that's one thing. But for a public official to SAY that? C'mon. It's just uncouth, and something a politician should not say. Bringing any mention of the concept of "sin", no matter what your views are, no matter what the issue, or what your party is, is uncalled for. And calling it a public health risk is just silly. I don't want to be led by a man who can't separate religion from politics.

    Anyone remember Wayne Dumond? I blame that directly on Huckabee. The man needed to be in prison.
    In all actual fairness he did answer this attack in one of the clips I posted. When he did write those comments in the questionnaire in 1992, there wasn't as much information on AIDS as we know today. There was still a stigma on the homosexuality community dealing with AIDS, even from professionals in the medical field where he got his information from.

    As for whether or not he should have called it a sin or not, I understand what you're saying and understand the criticism. However JLAP if someone were to ask you if you prefer homosexuality to heterosexuality, would you deny your preference? Why should he lie that he believes homosexuality is a sin? I think there's a difference to be genuine about your beliefs and to force them upon people. He respects the 1st amendment and religious freedoms and doesn't think any religion should be favored or imposed upon. Does that make him wrong for being honest about his beliefs? Would you rather him lie and say that he believes homosexuality is not a sinful way of life according to God? I'm sure he would say gambling, alcoholism, and porn addiction are sinful ways of life too. At least this man has integrity about his beliefs, tries to live them out and is upfront and transparent about them.
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    I saw your clips, and i saw the interview on the Mormon thing and i might believe him when he said it was a mistake. Might. I have a problem with his "women should submit" comment and yes i did hear that explained away too into something less pronounced, but i still disagree with the fundamental ideas behind it

    Well then you obviously don't know who Huckabee is because he isn't running on his faith.
    i have to disagree with this, isn't the man's campaign slogan "faith, family, and freedom"?
    that makes no logic

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