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    Why should he lie that he believes homosexuality is a sin? I think there's a difference to be genuine about your beliefs and to force them upon people.
    *No civil unions; only one-man-one-woman marriage. (Nov 2002)
    *Signed legislation outlawing same-sex marriage in Arkansas. (Dec 2006)



    sounds like to me he is willing to force his religious beliefs on ppl. he doesnt even believe in civil unions for gays.
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    Do I have a preference? Well it depends on the context. I have a preference for having a romantic relationship with homosexuals over heterosexuals, for obvious reasons. If you mean do I have a preference for hanging out and being friends with homosexuals versus heterosexuals, then I honestly don't have a preference for either. It never comes into question and I wouldn't like someone extra or less based on their sexuality. I can't deny that I feel a fraternity to other gay people but I don't feel that I prefer their friendship over straight people.

    To be honest, most of my friends are straight women lol. You said "I'm sure he would say gambling, alcoholism, and porn addiction are sinful ways of life too." and I agree, he probably does, but why single out homosexuality? I mean.... that's the thing. People make a HUGE deal of of homosexuality when , if it IS a sin (let's say it is for the sake of argument even though you know I wouldn't agree with that) it's no worse than any other sin in God's eyes. They really blow homosexuality out of proportion compared to every other sin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch View Post
    I saw your clips, and i saw the interview on the Mormon thing and i might believe him when he said it was a mistake. Might. I have a problem with his "women should submit" comment and yes i did hear that explained away too into something less pronounced, but i still disagree with the fundamental ideas behind it

    i have to disagree with this, isn't the man's campaign slogan "faith, family, and freedom"?
    The mainstream media has been attacking him ever since he became a front runner in the GOP. Yes he believes in God. Yes he's said some scripture and believes God is the creator, not random luck. It's because of this the media has been trying to twist and distort his campaign as "I'm the true Christian, vote for me". Therefore because he has faith in God, it's fair to totally disregard his as a candidate? Watch him in the debates and getting interviewed on his stances. 99.9% has nothing to do with his faith and it's a shame people totally disregard him because he does have faith. What about Romney, should we just conclude that he is a Mormon, end of story? Should we consider others as just Atheists? We're not electing some kind of high priest for the United States that is based solely on faith. We're voting for a President who can have any faith under the sun which should be irrelevant, what matters most is the direction they are going to take this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rattler_mt View Post
    *No civil unions; only one-man-one-woman marriage. (Nov 2002)
    *Signed legislation outlawing same-sex marriage in Arkansas. (Dec 2006)



    sounds like to me he is willing to force his religious beliefs on ppl. he doesnt even believe in civil unions for gays.
    There's two stances on same-sex marriage. For it or against it. So you're saying that everyone that is against same-sex marriage, even those that are gays, do so because of religious beliefs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustLikeAPill View Post
    Do I have a preference? Well it depends on the context. I have a preference for having a romantic relationship with homosexuals over heterosexuals, for obvious reasons. If you mean do I have a preference for hanging out and being friends with homosexuals versus heterosexuals, then I honestly don't have a preference for either. It never comes into question and I wouldn't like someone extra or less based on their sexuality. I can't deny that I feel a fraternity to other gay people but I don't feel that I prefer their friendship over straight people.

    To be honest, most of my friends are straight women lol.
    No no no no no... I meant your sexuality. If you were running for office would it be more noble for you to lie and say that you are heterosexual or be honest and say you're for gay sex? That was the point.
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    simple, we dont need another political leader ruled by faith. He would pull the religous card on ANY thing we would do, and when he is making desicions it would be by faith, not how the public feels.

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    im saying he is using his religous beliefs to set policy to dictate what other ppl do...............i dont care if a person personally believes being gay is wrong ect. i do care that they are so tied up in their beliefs that they are unwilling to let others who dont share their beliefs live as they wish. if he came out and said i do not like homosexuality and i appose it but what two concenting adults do behind closed doors is none of my buisness. well then i could deal with that. and as i said marriage has two definitions, a religious one that varies with individuals personal beliefs even with in the same religion and the legal one. gays should be able to have the legal version, the religious version is up to personal beliefs, the churh they belong to ect.
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    After all I've been through, there's no way I could live with myself if I lied. It would not be noble for a gay person to like about their sexuality because they think it would be easier to make it in politics (or to make it in anything, really.) It would be cowardly.

    I thought about it. The only way I could feel comfortable lying about my sexuality was in an emergency in order to give a friend my blood.

    And there's a big difference between saying "I am straight" and "homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk." If he believed homosexuality it's self was a public health risk, then he, as well as the doctors he got that info from, regardless of the stigma, are small minded and I pity them.

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