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    Quote Originally Posted by JB_OrchidGuy View Post
    The problem is they both are crap these days and forget getting a third party in there. It's not going to happen.

    Maxx this country is a far cry from what our founding fathers envisioned. It is a joke to think we are doing it the same way. Also I bet our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves at what is happening in politics today. They give themselves pay raises and do everything to benefit them and screw the people. We get the leftovers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phissionkorps View Post
    Ridiculous social welfare programs and out of control "defense" spending are how the gov't ends up with a deficit .
    Don't forget about borrowing from other countries and owing the Federal Reserve.

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    I remember that parable well JB. It bares repeating every once in a while.

    Speaking of Federal Reserve; can anyone find it in the government section of their local phone book? I just cannot seem to find it in mine............



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    That is so stupid and does not reflect our political parties. I'm a registered independent and I don't belong to either party.

    You can't tell me that you believe that Bill Gates deserves tax breaks when the average person is struggling to buy enough gas to get back and forth to work.

    It's got nothing to do with how hard you work or study like your dumb little story put it. It's got to do with making the people that make millions pay their fair share.
    The republican party is run by the rich and it's first goal is to make sure the rich gets richer and keeping regular people working to keep them rich. They use religion, and religious issues to keep them in power.

    I'm voting democrat this election because I can't support a party that supported an idiot for 8 years.

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    It doesn't Ozzy? What are you saying Ozzy, that the same % you pay shouldn't be the same % the rich pay? Their % = higher amount than your % equals because they start out with more. If you really wanted to be fair then everyone would pay the same % no deductions no nothing. Flat tax across the board. That is fair, but just because someone makes more doesn't mean they should pay higher % than you or I.

    That story fits right in with taxes in my book. A lot of the rich, not all, but a lot have worked hard to get there. Why should they pay a higher % than you or I just to give their income to someone who chooses not to work as hard?

    I don't think it is stupid and I do think it reflects things pretty good. I don't know about you, but I don't plan on being at the poverty level for the rest of my life. If you want it to be fair then everyone should pay the same % not the upper class paying more or the middle class paying more %. So go ahead slam me for my opinions.

    I know the system is broke and IMO NONE of the people running for president can or will do anything to fix it. The system is broke and needs to be fixed Just going with the lesser of the two evils like I did last election. Because Bush has always been better then the people the Dems were putting up against him.
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    I can't speak for him, but I think Ozzy misunderstood you.

    If conservatives stuck to their roots and remained FISCAL conservatives instead of SOCIAL conservatives, like Josh and Ron, things would be so nice. Ditto for the Democrats. It would be so nice if we only fought about money instead of morals. When did things go wrong? Of course, I have no room to talk :P


    I think the inheritance tax is REALLY stupid. I can't see how that's legal because they taxed the money when your relative was alive, and then they take another third when they die. They tax the same money twice! And income tax. You know, theres not even a law that says we have to pay income tax! There was a documentary on FSTV all about it the other day. I was shocked!


    I don't believe that anyone should be taxed more or less. I don't see why the Democrats want to give tax breaks to people with income under 150K or so. I forgot the exact number. Is it me, or does a person with a six figure income not need a tax break? Let's lower than to 50K. Unless they means family income, but IIRC they meant individual.

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    ive never cared for politics, to me its one of those topics that just blows up and everyone ends up upset or worked up and this thread will just go on and on about who is right and who is wrong. no matter how much you think you know either, the argument will go no where and someone will think they know more. no one ever knows EVERYTHING there is to know, just what they want you to know. might as argue with a brick wall, atleast it wont have anything to say.

    as for taxes.....there is nothing worse to me than paying taxes, and ive yet to receive an actual refund instead of paying, EVER. Although, the relief fund that Bush had approved a few years back did get me a check, which i later found out that they took that $350 check that the IRS sent me ended up being added to my debt of $15k+. talk about a screwed up system, why even send it?. i cant wait till the day i move away from this hell hole thats run by retards calling themselves politicians.

    if you are going to argue taxes, i would expect that you have real world experience in dealing with taxes and not just reading up on the internet or learning from TV. nothing ever works like its supposed to, its just how we roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB_OrchidGuy View Post
    Also I bet our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves at what is happening in politics today.
    actually not quite......if yah read alot on what Washington, Jefferson and the like believed, all pretty well knew we would end up where we are.....hell the first tax was brought about by Washington himself, after we went to war with England because of taxes, sure went over well to, look up the Whiskey Rebellion.........it was inevitable that we would get here, hell the founding fathers knew that over 200 years ago........all i can say is the next 20 years are going to be EXTREAMLY interesting in this country cause alot of crap is going to come to a head........ive got no clue how every thing's going to come out but its going to be an interesting ride none the less......
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