You're right, he did come to fulfill the law, but that does not mean he came to omit it. There were some things that were obviously being interpreted wrong (i.e. doing anything on the Sabbath is a sin) and Jesus clarified this mistake; however, it is a leap in logic to assume that means you can toss out Old Testament Law. I have answered what has been thrown at me... so I would like to think I am not picking and choosing.I think it's interesting how many Christians use the Mosaic Law to justify many views when Jesus said he came to fulfill the law. I also think it's interesting how they pick and choose what they want to from the Bible then castigate others for doing the same thing.
Many of these laws (i.e. it is forbidden to eat the blood of animal) were done to protect the people. Resistance to disease was not as strong in Old Testament times as it is now nor did they have the medical infrastructure we do. There were also obvious cultural differences; there is a fine line, however, in understanding some of the Mosaic Law is obviously outdated versus thinking that means the entire law is obsolete. If Jesus came to fulfill the law, it implies the law still has merit.If we're going to look at the Mosaic Law, remember that it's an abomination to wear clothings of mixed fiber. No poly/cotton blends for you, my dears. It's also unclean to eat animals with cloven hooves. Yum! This bacon cheeseburger sure is good!
So you are saying Christians are no longer held to "Thou shalt not murder?"I also think it's interesting how even though the New Testament CLEARLY states that Christians are no longer held to follow the Mosaic Law, Christians still follow very specific parts of it, typically those who are used to oppress others.
Agreed. I have never made the argument or claim that gays are trying to convert everyone. If someone asks me, I will say I do not agree with the lifestyle, but I am not going to run out into the street with a sign and wave it around like a lunatic. I live my life and they live theirs. "Christians" that burn down abortion clinics or persecute someone for their lifestyle are the exception, just as Muslims who fly planes into buildings are the exceptions. So just as you are asking for the generalizations to be left at the cutting room floor, so am I.I think it's very interesting how Christians are opposed to the supposed "gay agenda" and accuse homosexuals of attempting to "convert" everyone to the way we live when Christians are dictated to proselityze all the world. I also think it's conveniently overlooked by many Christians who accuse gays of attempting to "convert" everyone to the way we live when as gays, many of us say we had no choice in the matter. If we believe we had no choice in the matter, why do you think we would believe that you have a choice in the matter? I find the whole "lifestyle choice" to be a laughable argument in the first place. Yes, I woke up one morning and decided that I'd like nothing better than to oppose everything I'd ever been taught, to be equated with molesters and practicers of bestiality, and to be scorned by society at large.
AGREED. Cannot agree more. The Church has committed many blunders in the past and will keep doing so... because of what you said... it is made of humans. Herein lies the difference... one can easily see if the church has made a mistake by seeing if it contradicts the Word of God. If it does, then we know people were operating on their own selfish, political agenda and it is not of God. The Church has made many mistakes, but that does not invalidate the core doctrines of Christianity... it simply means there are stupid people out there. Now, if you look at it and stricken absolutes, anything goes, so whatever the church does is completely justified.There have undoubtedly been countless atrocities committed in the name of God and of the Church. The Church has attempted to oppress people for centuries. Coming from a Deaf family, it's common knowledge that in years past, the official position of the Church was that people who were Deaf were uneducable and couldn't be saved (according to the Church's interpretation of scripture) because they could not "hear" the Word of God. I have a hard time believing that people like my grandparents, great grandparents, cousins, etc., are condemned. The Church has obviously been wrong before in their interpretation of the Bible and it seems obvious to me that the Church will be wrong again. The Church and its leaders are not infallible.
Finally, simply because the Church has been wrong in the past does not mean it is wrong where the concept of homosexuality is concerned.