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    Quote Originally Posted by xvart View Post
    And getting back on topic... (great discussion, might it warrant it's own topic?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddhistAdam View Post
    Clint, you have NO idea how i feel about chemical meds... Imagine your mother, the woman you have loved your whole life, suddenly come down with this terrible disease destroying her and then these dr.'s say "heres some radiation" and watch her grow weaker, lose her memory, not able to walk properly. Then she gets this foul POISON to take and that does twice the damage of the radiation. And you know as you watch her go through these "therapies" that she is only getting weaker. and eventually her body cant take anymore because the radiation and chemo KILLED what could have kept her alive longer. When you go through that ****, Clint, then i think you can relate to how i feel about chemical medicenes....
    Adam. You have issues. Those drugs save countless lives each year. If it wasn't for radiation and chemotherapy then you would have watched your mothers cancer eat her away from the inside. I realize it was a horrible thing to see your mother get weaker, but those drugs do save lives. Trust me the cancer is worse than the treatment even though it may not seem like it. Sometimes no matter what we do the outcome will still be the same. I'm sorry for your loss, but the No drug attitude is just as bad as the too much drugs mentality. IMO There is a time and place for all drugs. Even cocaine has a medicinal use. And Fentynel is a synthetic heroine used in anesthesia all the time. Ever consider having surgery without drugs to put you to sleep?? I think not. Even local anesthesia uses a drug.

    Again sorry for your loss, but drugs do have a place. I will agree we do use them too much sometimes, but not having them would be just as bad.
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    Josh you know as well as I that a person on chemo is no more than a lab rat... no one knows for sure how chemo will react because it depends on location, severity, and condition of the person as well as the type of cancer. and who doesnt have issues?
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    Well, you can say that about any person with any condition. Side effects with all drugs vary greatly from individual to individual because we all have unique chemistry and metabolize drugs differently. You really never do know what will happen the first time you take something, you just get a general outline of the things that could happen and have been reported by others. Some of the stuff I take may not bother me, but one of my pills could give the next person a seizure, another could make their hands shake and heart race, another could make a dude grow breasts and another could give you liver damage with long term use. OR you could suffer no side effects at all at best or minimal side effects. Each time you try a new drug for whatever is wrong (or isn't hehe) with you, you are essentially a lab rat. I mean, you probably won't get glaucoma or osteoporosis from prescription nasal spray, but you might. You probably won't hallucinate from taking one or two sudafed, but you might. There's a small chance. We're all lab rats when we choose to use medicine. The risk of real damage is low enough that the benefits outweigh them.

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    you just proved what i meant mate... you cant prove that chemo/radiation has helped people...
    All fear violence, all are afraid of death.
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    .... I did? I don't think I said that at all lol. I just said that when we use a drug for the first time, we can't predict with a magic crystal ball which side effects we'll get. We just have a general list of side effects we may or may not get.

    Check out this graph. Finding cancer statistics isn't as easy as you'd think, and I wish I found a source with a longer period of time.

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    sources can be as biased as people... do you really think the govt gave the true death count of those GIs lost in nam?
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    I don't think the national cancer institute has a reason to lie. Instead of writing it off, show me something that says chemotherapy doesn't save lives. Show me something that explains how fewer cancer patients would be dieing if we did not have chemotherapy.

    JC, could you change it to Medicine?

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