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    Medicine: To Use or Not to Use

    Posts moved from this thread. Hope you like the title. -xvart.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustLikeAPill View Post
    You can celebrate Xmas if you want. It's really fun lol. It's really no a religious holiday in the public sphere anymore. Even some Jews celebrate it.

    I'd make a terrible lawyer. I'm too fair and honest After attending many long meetings with my rents and seeing the legal process first hand, there's no way in hell I'd ever be a lawyer. I've wanted to be a doctor since I was five and that's my life's plan. I don't know if I want to be a specialist or not... but considering the pay difference when you specialize in one field, I think I'll end up one. Too early to worry about that; I'll do whatever makes me happiest.
    Lol ironically i do celebrate the gift giving which doesnt help me on my path but my soul is still young

    I think CHEMICAL medicene needs to go...i think there is more hope in natural medicene...thought about studying to be a herbologist to go with my martial arts practice...
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    All fear violence, all are afraid of death.
    Seeing the similarity to oneself, one should not use violence or have it used.
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    I realize how you feel about chemical medicine, and I really believe homeopathy has a place as preventative medicine and a few minor things,and I find it very interesting (especially ethnobotanicals) but without pharmaceuticals I would have died several times by now. Today I was just talking about an allergic reaction I had and to get through it, I took five or six times the recommended dose of Diphenhydramine and I took a butt load of inhaled Albuterol (I take it systematically now, but at the time I didn't have a script for Albuterol tablets). My throat almost completely closed up and I could have died, especially with my chronic asthma, without chemical drugs.

    I have a bum thyroid. It doesn't work. Period. In fact, I've got Hashimoto's thyroiditis; by body attacks my own thyroid. Without artificial hormones, I'd be like I was before I was diagnosed as a kid. Always sleepy, always hungry, always freezing (even in summer).

    Propecia keeps my hair from falling out. Without a DHT blocker, I'd be bald. You could see my scalp two or three years ago. Now it's thick enough no one can tell except myself.

    I have such severe allergies, I take Hydroxyzine. It's a last-ditch-effort from my doctor to treat my allergies, and is usually given to people as a sedative before surgery, as a sleeping pill, and a tranquilizer. For the first time in my life, I'm actually not watching the news to worry about the pollen count. It still bothers my asthma, which is why I'm going to ask for a corticosteroid, but not my allergies.

    I could go on, but you get the point. These are pretty minor chronic conditions in the big picture, but without drugs (and I've been on at LEAST three different drugs daily ever since I can remember) A: wouldn't be here and B: wouldn't want to be here if I was. If I ever got cancer, I'm not going to chew on root bark and meditate. I realize your mother (I think it was your mother) had cancer, and as cancer runs in my family I sympathize, but leaves and flowers are no match for western medicine. Of course if I ever got cancer I'd eat up any root or flower the local shaman or herbologist sold me on the chance that it may do something, I wouldn't stop taking chemotherapy and other medicine. Look at people who don't have western medicine... last time I checked they aren't so healthy. Get a cut that becomes in the jungle, and you could be screwed.

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    Clint, you have NO idea how i feel about chemical meds... Imagine your mother, the woman you have loved your whole life, suddenly come down with this terrible disease destroying her and then these dr.'s say "heres some radiation" and watch her grow weaker, lose her memory, not able to walk properly. Then she gets this foul POISON to take and that does twice the damage of the radiation. And you know as you watch her go through these "therapies" that she is only getting weaker. and eventually her body cant take anymore because the radiation and chemo KILLED what could have kept her alive longer. When you go through that ****, Clint, then i think you can relate to how i feel about chemical medicenes....
    All fear violence, all are afraid of death.
    Seeing the similarity to oneself, one should not use violence or have it used.
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    I can't imagine that happening to my mother, because it hasn't but it did happen to my aunt. She also became bound to a wheel chair, couldn't walk period, and could only sit there and drool. Sometimes she's make an animal-like noise, and an experimental treatment in Mexico before the FDA approved it for the US (It's approved now. The Gamma Knife) gave her a few more months of life. Did I mention my grandfather also died of cancer? So yes, I can understand cancer.

    Adam, cancer is a serious illness. It requires a serious treatment. Chemotherapy kills cells. It's not good for you, but it works for killing cancer. It's a very delicate and acrobatic discussion talking to someone about something like this who has lost his mother, and I'm not going to psychoanalyze you. It is poison. It really is. It's a poisonous medicine. The drug Melarsoprol is similar to this, in fact it must be used with a glass syringe because it melts plastic and it it's self can kill you. Damage is done to the body to wipe out the disease. If we did not have chemotherapy, we would have far greater cancer death rates.

    But you're free to believe western medicine is evil and does no good. Just don't let me ever find out you took an aspirin or antihistamine or any form of medicine beyond that which is found in nature. I'm really one to rub things like that in.

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    JLAP:

    Have you ever tried supplementing local raw honey? Supposed to help with allergies, plus other health benefits.
    James 1:17

    "Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows."

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    And getting back on topic... (great discussion, might it warrant it's own topic?)

    xvart.
    "The tragedy of life is not that every man loses; but that he almost wins."

    "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"

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    I haven't even seen unprocessed honey lol. The evil western pharmaceuticals are working great as long as I don't take it during the daytime.

    I REALLY do believe in homeopathy to a poin, though. I even used to drink and make kombucha tea. I have a large jar of live culture "mushrooms" in my refrigerator. Been in there for years dormant. I should make some sometime. It's very good.

    Yes, now back to the topic... sooo.... what can we say that we havn't already said lol

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    JLAP, i am sorry to hear about your aunt and grandfather, truly.
    I said CHEMICAL meds...not all western meds are chemicals...such as pennicellin(sp?)
    All fear violence, all are afraid of death.
    Seeing the similarity to oneself, one should not use violence or have it used.
    The Buddha
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