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    why is it so ineffective than? it is taught in schools here in the 5th grade.....not abstinence programs, full blown sex ed classes like you and schoalty suggest yet we still have high teen birth rates here?
    I beleive you hit the nail on the head unintentionally here. You just said 5th grade. I don't know about where YOU live, but here, those are 10 year olds. You need to have sex ed in middle school (grades 6,7,8) and high school. Maybe not every year, but every couple of years at least. I got it in 7th(health), 9th (biology) and 10 (health). If I got it in elementary school, you can be sure I don't remember!

    It takes faith in God to accept the Bible as truth. Just as it takes faith in science to accept evolution as truth.
    This is one of the greatest falsehoods perpetrated by the religious right.

    Science can make predictions. EVOLUTION can make predictions. These predictions can be tested. Guess what? They're generally correct.

    Religion can make no such claim.

    Science has OBSERVABLE evidence and is testable.

    Religion can make no such claim.

    A very wise ferret once said that trying to understand the material world with religion is like trying to mow the grass with a screwdriver. Wrong tool for the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capslock View Post
    Reasons why Palin is a bad choice:

    1) She has virtually no experience. She has only a bachelors degree in journalism from the University of Idaho, and was a pageant queen, a sports reporter, and a fisherman before becoming mayor of a town of 9700. Prior to her recent election as governor, that's it. And yet she's a heartbeat away from the Presidency, a valid concern with the elderly cancer survivor, McCain.

    2) She's staunchly anti-abortion.

    3) She's favors teaching creationism in science class (yikes).

    4) She's an oil person. For Anwar drilling and off-shore drilling. Her husband works for BP. We need a break from these oil people.

    5) She's opposes equal rights for gay people.

    That's a start, and I think this really undermines McCain's argument that Obama lacks the necessary experience for President. A VP must be ready to assume the Presidency just like the candidate themselves. How can they argue about Obama's youth and inexperience now without undermining themselves? To me, this reads like an insulting and cynical attempt to garner Hillary Clinton voters just because he picked a woman.

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    Gore?..........................wow..............uh...........im speechless..............
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    Gore?..........................wow..............uh...........im speechless..............
    I think (hope?) he meant Gore as in blood, guts and splatter.

    You know, may the best politician win.....IN THE OCTAGON!!!!
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    lol..........yah know i could see voting for gore 8 years ago cause yah didnt like Bush......but wanting him to actually be running in this election.........wow.........thats about all i can say...
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    when push comes to shove i doubt abortion, sex ed and creationism are even really going to raise their head in the next 4 years regardless of who gets into office.....while these are issues everyone talks about in all reality right now if yah sit and make a list of whats important to you(unless your a kid that hasnt been out in the real world) these three are unlikely to break the top ten as far as what ppl are truly concerned over and honestly i have seen nothing to show that they are flying high on any of the candidates radar so while fun to argue about they arent the real issues......

    im big on states rights.....for this Barr is the best candidate, McCain to a lesser extent and Obama is way at the back........health insurance is another big issue, from all the research i have done its likely a wash in cost to the tax payer between Obama's and McCain's plans....however Obama's dumps in more federal buerocratic red tape and less options to the average Joe so ill go with McCain on this one........on taxes.......what Obamas preaching aint realistic......ill go with McCain..........ontop of everything else in his years in the senates(both Illinois and DC) the guy has never authored a bill or anything.....when he was the editor or whatever at the Harvard Law Review he hardly contributed anything which is odd........in the Illinois senate he voted "present" over 100 times instead of "yes" or "no" while i know this is common practice in the Illinois senate i view it as a load of cow manure.....add that to the fact he is using the fact he has run his own campaign for 18 months as proof he has more experience than Palin? christ looks more and more like he is a career politition that has got through life by doing as lil as possible to get by and hasnt held a real job........Palin and McCain on the other hand i can identify with.....Palin is a working class stiff from a working class family.....while i dont always believe in what McCain says i know he stands by his word better than Obama....he voted his convictions in the senate this last year knowing it may cost him the election....even if i dont always agree with him i know where he stands.......Obama sits and praises the lil guy while talking to his face than when he is infront of big city elites he refers to us as "clinging to our guns and religion".....tell me why i can trust him when he is worse than an old grey haired busy body down the street that says one thing while yah talk to her and another as soon as yah leave......cant like that........
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    Quote Originally Posted by schloaty View Post
    This is one of the greatest falsehoods perpetrated by the religious right.

    Science can make predictions. EVOLUTION can make predictions. These predictions can be tested. Guess what? They're generally correct.
    Bolded to emphasize. The point is no matter what generalization or prediction that science makes about the origin of life and existence, it is not absolute truth. There is doubt. To make the claim that science leaves no doubt and that the current theory of evolution is the way it happened is the BIGGEST falsehood of Biology. Which is why I said it requires the same amount of faith.

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    Science has OBSERVABLE evidence and is testable.
    That is debatable in the relevance of Evolution and origin.

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    A very wise ferret once said that trying to understand the material world with religion is like trying to mow the grass with a screwdriver. Wrong tool for the job.
    It never surprises me how egotistical man is, they think they know everything about everything. Wrong.
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    "Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows."

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