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    The health care system is broke and it needs to be fixed. We left it up to the doctors, insurance companies and drug companies. All they did was robbed the American people and filled their pockets. We need to do something so that every American can get affordable health insurance. We tried the free enterprise system and all it did was to make drug and insurance companies rich. Obama's plan is way better than McCains.

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    Outsiders71: Which if the following do you want to eliminate? Roads and highways built by government. Social Security. Public parks. County hospitals. Public elementary and secondary schools. State universities and colleges. If you want any of them to remain, you believe in at least some degree of socialism.

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    Don't forget law enforcement, fire protection, the military . . . they're socialist too.
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    Madness is something rare in individuals but in groups, parties, peoples, ages it is the rule. Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tropics View Post
    Outsiders71: Which if the following do you want to eliminate? Roads and highways built by government. Social Security. Public parks. County hospitals. Public elementary and secondary schools. State universities and colleges. If you want any of them to remain, you believe in at least some degree of socialism.
    Comparison fail. None of those can be viewed as entitlements besides maybe Social Security and County Hospitals. If it were up to me, I'd get rid of Social Security completely and have the government write everyone a check for what they've been taxed for. I believe the average American is capable of putting away their own money and doesn't need the Gov't to do it for them.

    Free health care = Entitlement
    Free College Tuition = Entitlement
    Income Redistribution = Socialism

    So lets just be blunt and to the point here. A vote for Obama is a vote for entitlements and socialism. Where can you find entitlements and the government taking care of you from cradle to grave in the American dream?
    James 1:17

    "Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows."

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    And a vote for McCain is a vote for 4 more years of Retarded bush

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    And a vote for McCain is a vote for 4 more years of Retarded bush
    1) Show me a diagnosis by a M.D. that says Bush is retarded.

    2) Bush can not run for a 3rd term. In America, the President is only allowed to run for a max of 2 terms.

    3) Bush isn't even on the ballot.
    James 1:17

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    Bush got us in a war for no other reason than revenge.
    Bush killed thousands of Americans.
    Bush killed tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands non Americans.
    Bush let the people that killed 4000 Americans go free.
    Bush has almost bankrupted our country.
    I consider anybody that would do even half of these things severely retarded.


    Almost all of McCains policies are identical to Bush's.
    So a vote for McCain is a vote for four more years of what we just had 8 years of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Bush got us in a war for no other reason than revenge.
    Speculation/Conspiracy Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Bush killed thousands of Americans.
    A ludicrous and false statement.

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    Bush killed tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands non Americans.
    Another distorted and warped statement.

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    Bush let the people that killed 4000 Americans go free.
    More like the people that killed 4,000 Americans went into hiding in caves and other bordering countries.

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    Bush has almost bankrupted our country.
    Importing $700 Billion dollars of foreign oil has done more to bankrupt our economy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    I consider anybody that would do even half of these things severely retarded.
    Your opinion is based on spite, hatred and emotion and not reason.

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    Almost all of McCains policies are identical to Bush's.
    Explain why his voting record is less with Bush, while Obama's is 96% with his party. Also it isn't news that McCain and Bush have had it out in regards to policies, especially with Iraq. Your attempt to tie McCain to Bush is nothing but groundless Obama propaganda.

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    So a vote for McCain is a vote for four more years of what we just had 8 years of.
    Maybe if you believe that 1) McCain and Bush agree on every issue, which is flat out wrong and 2) You believe the President has a magic wand and can make everything better. Bush was dealt with a lot in his 8 years, and people like yourself forget what this country has been through. He made it his mission to keep this country from another attack, and has succeeded. Sure he failed in many regards domestically, including getting this country independent from foreign oil and the way the war was handled. However if you believe that this country is in the state that we are in soley because of Bush and Iraq, you are naive. Our economic problems have been long-waiting. It was only a matter of time before the supply and demand of oil got out of control. It was only a matter of time before the mortgage crisis occurred, which can be tracked back to Jimmy Carter, who made banks become relaxed on giving out loans.
    James 1:17

    "Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows."

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