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    i would rather see spending cuts than taxes raised......unfortunatly the only ones preaching that never made it out of the primaries..........
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    [QUOTE=rattler_mt;902344]for the record the same was said of Stalin, Hitler and Castro......excelling at public speaking is not nessisarily a sign of a good leader[QUOTE]

    And so was Kennedy. I wouldn't compare Obama to the three dictators you mentioned, especially since this country has the checks and balances that the others do not. We can impeach the power abusers while the others cannot. They just have to be assassinated!

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    was making a point, was not equating him to them.........

    the issue being the federal government is paying less and less attention to the checks and balances and the ppl are becoming less and less likely to pull the trigger on one who doesnt do what the ppl want.......given Obama's history on the second amendment he does seem to be interested on taking out the most decisive method of uprooting those who abuse their power.....
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    This thread has broken Godwinn's law.

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    if your going to throw in a reference like that but not contribute anything to the thread the least you could do is spell it right............
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    Good lord man! You'll do anything to attack someone who disagrees with your sensibilities, won't you? It's an extra 'n', an 'n' man!

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    why not?....your post was a response to a single word in my post.........not the idea behind it or any of that......had i said just Stalin and Castro what would your response be?...
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    I was hoping for no debates and just a curious sit down to see what everyone felt on the subject.

    If you had still said just Staling and Castro I'd still say that's an incredibly lopsided argument. It falls heavily under post hoc ergo propter hoc, declaring that people with even relatively similar views are going to send humanity spiraling into chaos is extremely immature. By this same rote, any Republican is immediately George Bush.

    So, if you want to compare dictators, we should disband the republican party immediately because they are doomed to lead America in to continually more ignominus leaderships and eventually we'll just be a police state living on rations and being shipped to wars for all eternity. It's a weak argument, and you, sir, are out of line for trying to make it a valid argument.

    And throwing in nazis is just cheap. How do you argue with it? Nazis are the standard for political evil, so any time anyone brings it up it renders others competition impotent, because all you can do is agree. If I were to say "ah, yes, but you see, Nazis had universal heathcare!" or, "Hitler at least paid his army decent wages!" then I would be seen as pro-nazi, and healthcare/wages would then be associated with a genocidal regime. It is the very opposite of effective debate and constructive discussion.

    Ah well. I didn't really expect debate to not enter this thread anyway. Good day, do what you will.

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