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    Obama's prime-time ad skips over budget realities.

    In the spirit of the fairness doctrine,
    here is some much needed "equal time" for this forum:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081030/...check_obama_ad

    Did anyone see this last night?
    I found about it, by reading about it on-line, a few hours after it happened!
    I would have watched it! had I known it was on..

    he needed some advertising FOR his advertisment!
    I dont think anyone knew it was on..

    im going to watch it right now..

    Scot

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    I especially like the SPIN vs. FACTS portion of that page. Heck with the video. The comparisons in what he said and the way it would be is what I like!


    A sampling of what voters heard in the ad, and what he didn't tell them:
    THE SPIN: "That's why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year."

    THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.
    SPENDING... ding, ding, ding, red flag. LOL Spending from where? He "hopes"? Hey, I can hope for a $mil to fall into my lap too. LOL

    I forgot, he wants to redistribute the wealth. Redistribute it to medical professionals, software designers, and other large corporations apparently by the sounds of that.

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    I wasn't able to watch TV news for the last week without hearing it hyped (just not what TIME it was actually going to be on). In my area it was 7 PM.

    I started watching it right off but it got boring, I can never watch any of those Presidential address/state of the union type things even if I do like or don't like the guy. I really enjoy debates, interviews and press conferences much better - so I got to playing with my MIDI synthesizer programming sounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiana Gardener View Post

    SPENDING... ding, ding, ding, red flag. LOL Spending from where? He "hopes"? Hey, I can hope for a $mil to fall into my lap too. LOL

    I forgot, he wants to redistribute the wealth. Redistribute it to medical professionals, software designers, and other large corporations apparently by the sounds of that.
    Read the whole article the same source says McCain is going to increase the deficit too. It six of one half dozen of the other at this point. As long as the deficit goes up it is going to have the same effect on our economy, and it wont be positive trust me on that one.
    "We're terrible animals. I think that the Earth's immune system is trying to get rid of us, as well it should." - Kurt Vonnegut

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    Obama’s infomercial brought home the issues for which he has advocated throughout his campaign, namely tax cuts for the middle class, expanding health care insurance to more people, and encouraging the development of clean energy.

    Obama’s health care insurance plan is far better than McCain’s plan. Obama’s plan retains those who now have insurance and offers affordable insurance to those who don’t have it (47 million people). To do that, Obama’s plan creates a huge pool of people who want to buy insurance and gives financial support to qualified people. His plan also requires all children to have insurance. Coverage would be equivalent to coverage for federal employees.

    Unlike McCain’s health care insurance plan, Obama’s plan does not have disincentives for employers who are now providing health care insurance to their employees. Under McCain’s plan, some of those employers are expected to terminate the insurance.

    Also unlike McCain’s plan, Obama’s plan does not allow insurers to disqualify anyone due to pre-existing conditions (such as diabetes or cancer). Under McCain’s plan, those who have pre-existing conditions either won’t be able to find insurance or they will have to pay so much for it that most of them won’t be able to afford it.

    McCain’s plan relies on the free market, which we know from experience has failed -- at least in health care. Some may call Obama’s plan socialism. But in health care, we already have socialism – and it works. It’s called Medicare. I don’t know anyone who qualifies for Medicare who thinks it’s a bad idea.

    At this point there are only two choices. It's not enough just to bash one or the other. Comparisons have to be made. Obama's plan has its flaws, but it's by far the better of the two.

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    Anyone who takes any campaign ad at face value for either side should be slapped.
    that makes no logic

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    Read the whole article the same source says McCain is going to increase the deficit too. It six of one half dozen of the other at this point.
    That's because they're both politicians! LOL It's just a matter of picking the lesser evil. Right now, I favor the one who isn't looking to drastically change or modify the Second Amendment. A stark contrast to the other's past voting record.

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    Amen finch!
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