Wow, what a load of BS. Whats wrong with gay marriage? They should not be denied the right to marry each other, it is just plain wrong not to let them get married. Why should gays be punished?
Stop whining, Obama is not going to ruin our country!
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Obama has won!
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Wow, what a load of BS. Whats wrong with gay marriage? They should not be denied the right to marry each other, it is just plain wrong not to let them get married. Why should gays be punished?
Stop whining, Obama is not going to ruin our country!
I do not think one man can ruin a country by himself-he needs help...
I think(and I am not the most knowing in this field) that McCain was pushed into certain things by the GOP and was not free to be himself. Obama ran a smarter campaign. I still voted for McCain, hoping the mask would drop, but it's moot-he lost. Obama will be President and as such, I will be behind him.
I just bought Rattler's PB numbers, so we will see if he is
or
Cheers,
Joe
I think(and I am not the most knowing in this field) that McCain was pushed into certain things by the GOP and was not free to be himself. Obama ran a smarter campaign. I still voted for McCain, hoping the mask would drop, but it's moot-he lost. Obama will be President and as such, I will be behind him.
I just bought Rattler's PB numbers, so we will see if he is
or
Cheers,
Joe
Maxx
Someday is not a day of the week.
Nepfreak
Nepenthesian
Maxposwilo, I believe that was another example of sarcasm, which is particularly rampant in this thread. For my part, I'd like to see how a democrat does with our country for once, I'm sick of republicans (no offense to anyone here, obviously.) If he fails, hey I was wrong, but I think he'll do a great job and have no reason to think he'll send us into more trouble.. if it's even possible to be in more trouble than we currently are. And max, I agree about bringing back medieval methods and maybe some tribal rituals as well. Virgin! Virgin!
How about this: If Obama does great and resotres our standing in the world (my Dutch friends tell me the Dutch translation for Bush's America is roughly "Arrogant Satan Country" BTW) and helps our economy and does all the stuff he most likely will, those who voted for McCain cant say ****.
And if the opposite happens, ill shut up. Fair?
I find it extremly narrow minded that you cannot realize how much having the World Community behind President Obama will help us.
Good luck arguing a point you cannot win. Obama's nearly in the office.
And if the opposite happens, ill shut up. Fair?
I find it extremly narrow minded that you cannot realize how much having the World Community behind President Obama will help us.
Good luck arguing a point you cannot win. Obama's nearly in the office.
one point though......been saying all along neither McCain nor Obama was going to be able to do jack for the economy.....its part of a natural cycle.......you can make it worse, you can minimize a few of the damages but its going to go through a valley no matter what.......if you have peaks, you have valleys.......have also said i dont care one bit what the world thinks of us just like i dont expect them to care about what i think of them.........
theyellowdart
sea bear returns!
Maxx
Someday is not a day of the week.
And this is based on what? Nobody pushes around the President of the United States. The question is about respect. Not many international countries respect Bush, but they don't "push him around." They don't respect Bush, and as he is the elected head representative of our country, it reflects on us. That is the point. It is about respect. Is it not possible that international populations like Obama because he is inspiring and he is an intelligent person? Is it not possible that they like him because they feel he has the potential to be a great international leader?
I also know a couple people that think the moon landing was a hoax, but that doesn't mean that is the predominate train of thought.
I agree that Bush was a big factor in the election, but I don't think that is unique to Obama. It wasn't a republican year. However, the statistic I think you were referring to was (I just happened to catch this a couple minutes ago on TV again) that 67% of voters who disapprove of Bush voted for Obama, which makes a world of difference. It wasn't that they voted for Obama because they didn't like Bush. They voted for Obama and didn't support Bush. But, your point still stands that it was a definite advantage. And, I completely agree about your point about washing sins of Bush, which is exactly what happened.
I have to disagree and think that Obama is exactly the kind of person that MLK had in mind. Obama has inspired a generation of people and empowered them to make choices that they believe will provide a better life not just for themselves as individuals, but as a people.
Many of those countries do share our common interests, and furthermore, we live in a global society and it does matter what level of respect we have for other countries and the level of respect other countries have for the USA.
That's what we have congress for! lol.
This is absolutely true, and to share some of the conversation rattler and I had via pm, I think the best thing Obama can do is let Pelosi build up some crazy spending bill and slap the veto on it. There is some legitimate concern about the democrats having power in both the executive branch and the legislative branch; but, I believe the Obama is in a place where he will not let that happen. He is fully aware of the responsibility he has been handed, and he must do whatever he can to make sure that the economy doesn't get worse. As economics go, it may be four years before we have recovered. As rattler said, these things happen and there will never be a time when our economy is always growing.
xvart.
seedjar
Let's positive thinking!
And finally, for those of you who cannot accept that the American people have spoken, there's only one response:
Capslock
Oh my god, you are now the coolest person I know.
~Joe
Maxx
Someday is not a day of the week.
Yeah I guess Max is pretty cool, hehe. Just kidding other Max.
seedjar
Let's positive thinking!
DrWurm
Californian in DC
Luckily for us, we live in a country where survival is not the only goal. In addition to life, there is liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The LGBT community simply wants the same legal rights as I have. Now that they once again have fewer rights than their heterosexual friends and neighbors, they are, by even the most conservative definitions, second class citizens. Good going California!
Wow, so many things I'd like to address, so little time.
Luckily, Xvart and DrWurm have me pretty well covered. haha
Summed up without any expletives? You did a better job replying to that than I could have hoped to do.
I think that it's a shame that 8 passed. This was another chance for California to be a leader for change. Oh well, we now have a law on the books that sets the precedent that the government can abridge the powers/rights of religions (so long as we do it equally, apparently,) let's see what legislation we get based on that premise. >:- )
Luckily, Xvart and DrWurm have me pretty well covered. haha
Summed up without any expletives? You did a better job replying to that than I could have hoped to do.
I think that it's a shame that 8 passed. This was another chance for California to be a leader for change. Oh well, we now have a law on the books that sets the precedent that the government can abridge the powers/rights of religions (so long as we do it equally, apparently,) let's see what legislation we get based on that premise. >:- )
Your comment is the most vile and sick thing I have ever heard anyone say on this forum!!!
You have crossed the line.
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Well, if we're real good and pray real hard maybe Santa will bring us the Palin Apocalypse in 2012!
She'd probably like to stretch my godless flesh out on the old rack. Maybe revoke my use of the 1st amendment by yanking out my heathenish tongue and lopping off my hands before lashing me to a stake in the center of town. As a show of "Love" for my own "tortured soul" of course!
I actually always kinda wanted to go that way, either burned as a heretic or eaten by zombies!
It just seems so romantic.BTW if you haven't seen them "Mark of the Devil" and "Innocents from Hell" are two "awesome" (horrific) witchfinder general movies made in Italy in the 70's that are both on DVD now.
Dimka
Sundewist
Let me put this in words you can understand. Other than you being "completely wrong," any sort of discussion saying people should be tortured and executed for their belief system will not be tolerated. I don't care what you belief system you subscribe to, such a suggestion is disgusting and frankly, you should be ashamed of yourself.
I suggest using your three day ban to think of more constructive ways to get your point across, besides advocating for the death, torture, humiliation, and degradation of fellow people.
xvart.
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