Hahaha, lol Bigbella.
Hahaha, lol Bigbella.
<Heli> How are you guys losing your hamatas?
<Brokken> Heli: The hamburglar.
Sorry i forgot to throw that in too. I was referring to the nasty cigs.
"It's easy to rip on cops, when you aren't the one needing saving"
It's funny, California loves their marijuana smokes but hates their cigarette smokers.
By the time marijuana is legalized, you wont be able to legally smoke anywhere anyway. (And that's only half joke.)
I know where you're coming from Est. I've often thought that way about Cigar smokers VS Cigarette smokers. I think it breaks down like this:
in the old days it was
pot=migrant workers, black jazz musicians, poor hippies
pot=money, moviestars, michael phelps
I was surprised when the financial channel ran a special last year called "California's Cash Crop" and it pretty much came off positive for anti-prohibition and taxation. I think all the schedule 1 consciousness expanding drugs should all be legalized. These were given the stiffest penaties in the 60s as the Kennedy/Johnson & Nixon governments were trying to quell the youth uprisings and protests to the war. These substances are all completely benign in comparison to alcohol, speed, meth and coke which can all stop your heart and make you a violent paranoid after prolonged use or overdose. Weirdly these far more dangerous things carry less penalties than magic mushrooms, peyote, ayahuasca/yage none of which will stop your heart or kill you in any easily ingestible amounts and have been used for millenia by native peoples as "healing" sacraments.
My one sway on the "hard" or "overdosable" drugs is Heroin. As I'm well acquainted with a lot of Nam vets (my dads old pals) most of whom who came back heroin addicts. I think junkies should be given a legal script for a maintained dose so they can go on about living their life, working, etc. If they want to stay on the junk let them have access to buy clean needles and safe proper dosages that have been worked out with their doctor. The incidents of ODs would drop considerably at least amongst experienced junkies. Or help them to quit if they wanna kick, maybe every filled script would come with a booklet about quitting. The real danger of heroin is that someone get's used to some cut junk and then getting something of a much higher quality and then it's the golden lotus pad into paradise for you. I know of at least two of these old guys who have nodded out and never came back. My dad's ex-roommate from back in the day was found by the fire dept face down by the lake and revived before he headed over into the western lands. These incidents all took place when their normal junk was cut off and they got something new and they shot the same dose. A legal standardized dose obtained on a pharmacy script would never have this happen.
On the plain old Cig side of things MN just made a law you get a $100 fine if they pull you over while you're smoking and there's a kid in the car (this is the same fine as being caught with an ounce of pot).
They didn't say what the fine would be if you were driving with kids in the car, while tying on, smoking a joint, snorting a line and drinking a Chardonay... lol!
actually there isnt a whole lot wrong with cocaine.....the problems mainly come with some of the substances used to cut it to make more money or converting it into crack cocaine.......pure coke, taken in moderation, is prolly safer than alcohol.......
and to put things in perspective on issues between legal and illegal drugs, i dont remember about 2 months of my life due to a sleeping pill given to me by a doctor......that pill prevented my short term memory from converting to long term memory......and i didnt notice it happening other than im told i argued a whole lot with ppl about things they told me that i swore they never did......hell ive lost time due to drinking, but never more than an hour or so.........
Yes those synthetic prescription drugs are something else. I don't take any prescriptions myself and I avoid docs like the plague! My mother was prescribed the Levaquin anti-biotic for a bad cold and 12 hours after one dose she acted as if she had alzheimer's or something and this lasted for almost two weeks. I had to take care of her during this time making sure she tested her blood sugar and took her heart meds. She just sat there like a zombie with nobody home. When I looked it up online to find out side effects there were so many cases against the makers lawyers weren't taking on new Levaquin cases. She said she didn't recall any of the two weeks. Contrast this with me being given a Vicodin (sp?) script for an abscessed tooth and even with 3 times the dose I didn't feel any relief with it at all. Six Ibuprofen was better. The only thing that really worked was when they shot my face up with a lot of Novocaine in the ER.
I haven't had a drink in about a dozen years, anything that makes me sick both while I'm drinking it and after just isn't for me. I used to love it when I was a hoodlum teenager but it lost it's luster when I got to about 21 or so and got indigestion every time I took a swallow of any sort of alcohol. That does make it very easy to stop swallowing it! IIRC my last drinks ever were a about a half dozen rum & pepsis at a Misfits concert in 1996 or 1997.
Rattler and Ant:
The only test for whether Congress can regulate an activity is whether it affects interstate commerce. Even if the particular item being regulated (i.e. an MJ plant) never leaves the state, it can still affect interstate commerce. The case where this was decided held that Congress could regulate a farmer growing tomatoes for his own consumption because it affected the price of tomatoes on the market. They would find the same here. I'm not saying this is good or bad, that's just the way it is.
As for my own opinions, I think this is far past due, and will happen eventually. It may not be now, but as someone pointed out, the tide is turning, and eventually even the feds will get on board and change the law. Who knows how long.
but there is no official market for MJ if it is illegal.....Cali making it legal creates the market....the market is officially only with in the state of Cali....feds have no bearing in the matter at all.....