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    Blame Kissenger, Nixon, Bush Sr, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush Jr, and the GREEDY Wall Street Machine. Wall Street is simply an example of what living the American Dream will do to the rest of us. Go ahead and use 1/3 of the worlds resources and see what happens.

    If anyone blames OBAMA you are a silly little fool with no patience. what goes awry for 20 plus years can not be fixed by Obama in 2 months. So kindly ignore the 1st ammendment and shush if you believe that. Government never claimed to be perfect but with Barrack in charge I feel like there is a future again. Thats a lot more than could be said for anyone on the list above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S_Oregon_CP View Post
    Blame Kissenger, Nixon, Bush Sr, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush Jr, and the GREEDY Wall Street Machine. Wall Street is simply an example of what living the American Dream will do to the rest of us. Go ahead and use 1/3 of the worlds resources and see what happens.

    If anyone blames OBAMA you are a silly little fool with no patience. what goes awry for 20 plus years can not be fixed by Obama in 2 months. So kindly ignore the 1st ammendment and shush if you believe that. Government never claimed to be perfect but with Barrack in charge I feel like there is a future again. Thats a lot more than could be said for anyone on the list above.
    Dems. arent without their faults either

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBella View Post
    I agree with you -- to a degree. The only problem with simply letting the auto industry go belly up is the disruption of the economic food chain. Outright, it's obviously the tens of thousands of jobs that immediately evaporate, but also the parts suppliers nationwide who close down, the town's legions of small businesses which supported those auto workers, the town's loss of tax revenues, and on and on, right down to the Tacos Morenos Roach Coach outside the plant.

    In an odd fashion, a similar thing occurred with the wholesale closure of military bases in the 1990s. Whole revenue streams and supporting towns simply dried up as a result; and it took nearly a decade for Seaside, California, for example, to come back with the arrival of the California University on the site of the former Fort Ord.

    Ultimately, it is the little guy who gets the high colonic in the process -- one way or the other; but now, without the comfort afforded by a pint of Ben and Jerry's Pistachio-Pistachio Ice Cream.

    Approaching hoof-beats. I'm telling you, man . . .
    the same thing happened in the 1970's, an air force base not 50 miles from me closed down......the community still feels the effects of that.......crap happens, businesses and industries close down......Butte, MT used to be the biggest city between the Mississippi River and the Pacific ocean, i think only San Fran and Seattle were bigger......the mine closed up and the town has a population of less than 30,000 now........you cant prevent bad things from happening and the government subsidizing a business that cant make it in the free market is just going to be come a huge money pit for the rest of the country........its even worse when they pick and choose which ones they want to save........
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    Quote Originally Posted by S_Oregon_CP View Post
    Blame Kissenger, Nixon, Bush Sr, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush Jr, and the GREEDY Wall Street Machine. Wall Street is simply an example of what living the American Dream will do to the rest of us. Go ahead and use 1/3 of the worlds resources and see what happens.

    If anyone blames OBAMA you are a silly little fool with no patience. what goes awry for 20 plus years can not be fixed by Obama in 2 months. So kindly ignore the 1st ammendment and shush if you believe that. Government never claimed to be perfect but with Barrack in charge I feel like there is a future again. Thats a lot more than could be said for anyone on the list above.

    you left out Clinton who took off alot of the banking regulations that lead to the housing bubble that burst.......just blaming the repubs is idiotic, DC as a whole, both parties, are at fault.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by S_Oregon_CP View Post
    Blame Kissenger, Nixon, Bush Sr, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush Jr, and the GREEDY Wall Street Machine. Wall Street is simply an example of what living the American Dream will do to the rest of us. Go ahead and use 1/3 of the worlds resources and see what happens.

    If anyone blames OBAMA you are a silly little fool with no patience. what goes awry for 20 plus years can not be fixed by Obama in 2 months. So kindly ignore the 1st ammendment and shush if you believe that. Government never claimed to be perfect but with Barrack in charge I feel like there is a future again. Thats a lot more than could be said for anyone on the list above.
    No one is really blaming the President outright; it's simply that this critical period is unprecedented in recent history, and that he and his administration's current decisions and inevitable gaffs -- "Messiah" to the hoi polloi, Obama is capable of error -- can adversely impact the next decade down the road, both here and abroad, when he's cashing in on his third memoir (we'll see how Europe treats him at the G20 Summit -- the fellating may finally be over). I did notice, however, that thirty years of only right-wing figures were conveniently represented in your harangue, without including decades of democratic congresses and two terms of Bill Clinton (who I had voted for -- Bubba!) with his wanton deregulation of the banking system. Both parties are equally culpable.

    How about some currently responsible figures on the stage and not dredge up dinosaurs from before I was teething? Let's blame the failure of the Weimar Republic for Germany's ills while we're at it? Get your head from out of Obama's lap, if just for a moment. How about Senator Dodd in bed with AIG or Barney Frank -- up to his ***-less leather chaps in Fannie May and Freddie Mac?
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    As someone who grew up in Michigan let me say this, the UAW does have a huge role in the problems of American auto companies. I am not saying they are soley to blame but if a guy working for GM on the floor is only making $25/hour than he has less than 10 years in and is just starting out in life. But if he gets laid off by GM he gets 100% of his pay the whole time. If he completes his quota for the day in 6 hours he reads a magazine for the other 2 and still gets paid. After 25 years he can retire and get full retirment benefits from GM including 100% medical coverage. Going on strike when Rx copays go from $0.50 to a $1. Do I need to continue listing the rediculous things UAW workers have demanded? Again I am not saying this is the only cause of the problem, the people up top helped, but the union play a critical role. Also the only people I knew where living in a rusty trailer that worked for GM had alcohol or drug problems, the vast majority of them lived in nice homes.

    As for ousting our politicians, you can actually have a recall election if you want to put the work into removing someone before their time is up. Americans in general are just too lazy.

    Most of our economic problems have been coming for 20+ years, its just no one wanted to pay attention to the people who warned of this because Americans have a tendency to think short term solutions are the best way to go.
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    one more thing that torques me off.....if i hear Obama say one more time about how he inherited this mess....he didnt inherit anything....he bought the chance to be the one that gets to deal with it.......it was his choice to take on the mess.....has nothing to freaking do with inheriting anything......he spent millions to get it......

    and i would be just as torqued if anyone else had got in and was spouting the same drivil
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    In a way they ALL inherited it from the 1940s and the Keynesian economic philosophy.
    We've been flogging that dead horse for decades and it's not getting us anywhere. Unless the economic philosophy changes we're doomed to keep replaying these episodes with every new poobah we elect. Until we finally crash and burn like all the other great empires of history.

    Closing down GM: Yes, those people will be out of work but a new company will come along and fill that need. After seeing what unbridled greed does to a company, a town , a country there will probably be a law created against these salary competitions between CEOs occurring again.

    As a member of the working class/factory slave/drone myself I will probably never blame the worker or the union which fights for the worker. The companies DO in fact owe us a living, health care and retirement. Because without us they are absolutely dead in the water and they know it, they just don't think the workers are smart enough to figure it out.

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