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    I ain't got no steenkin' TDS meter!

    I don't have any of that kind of testing stuff anymore.

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    I would imagine that it would increase the TDS in the water:

    (From the DiatomiteUSA site in my link above, italics mine):

    High Silica Content: Silica is essential for healthy plants and roots. While Diatomite is approximately 85% insoluble Silica, it contains a small but significant portion that is SOLUBLE SILICA. Silica is essential for healthy plants and roots. Your plants will receive from Diatomite a slow release of silica resulting in healthier, more robust plants. Plant available silica has been shown in studies to stimulate SYSTEMIC ACQUIRED RESISTANCE (SAR) in plants which increases their resistance to disease.
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    I think that succulents can't be THAT picky. If succulents required soil such as that there would be none!


    And the cherrystone... it... looks very similar to a material that is quarried in my area. It is pinkish/purple limestone-ish rock. Alkaline for sure if that is indeed what it is. That's similar to what you were looking for with oystershell, if I recall.
    that makes no logic

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    Cherrystone Grit www.Cherrystonegrit.com is purple however it is inert being quarried from sandstone. It may have a small fraction of Iron but it is not calcitic as some of their suggested uses is in aquariums and to improve plant drainage , have a peek at their website. If there's another purple rock out there just be sure any you buy says this companies name on it. Just look for the big chicken!

    Others may be able to grow in other media like potting soils and I congratulate them for it. In my area potting soils will not dry out fast enough for succulents - so I use water absorbing clays, rocks, grit, etc. If I leave a succulent plant potted in the soil it generally comes in I won't have it long. They rot off at the base. I've wasted enough money by killing them to know that I have to repot succulents upon arrival into something that drains fast and dries in 2-3 days. I'd use straight pumice but they don't sell it around here and shipping on a bag of rock is just crazy (I did it once) so a trip to Napa and $8 is right up my alley!

    I'm not just going to use it for succulents but in place of "sand" for a peat/sand mix for my CPs too. I think it will be quite useful stuff in a number of soil mixes.

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    for the record.....sandstone is rarely totally inert.....depends on what type of stone makes up the sand in the sandstone and under what conditions it formed........around here the sandstone is slightly alkaline cause it formed at the edge of a large, shallow ocean 65 million years ago......there aint a ton of calcium and such in it but its there......
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    "Mark,
    Maybe you guys out there in CA can have a pot of soil & sand* dry up in two days, I've gotten plants shipped in from CA potted with 50/50 pumice & supersoil but here in MN other than in June/July/August your pots may not go dry for a month or more. Not so good for succulents, I've tried and failed until I started using the Shultz which dries up super quick in my area, this is just way cheaper. Now I simply repot every plant in my mix upon arrival and they live. If I don't get them outta peat I won't have them long."

    I believe the secret is in the pots. I use to have a extended succulent and cacti collection some years back in Europe in a temperate climate similar to yours i guess. Me and any growers i know there used to water them ONLY during the spring, summer and early fall months. No watering fro 4-5 months only in case of emergency and only a little. We use to call it the hibermation period. During the summer months the combination of sandy mix and the clay unglazed pots in full sun used to dry everithing in about 2-3 days. Watering was done 1 or 2 times for week depending on the size of the pots. I remember they used to look bad during the winter months and shrink a lot but inflate right back after the first 2 waterings and flower in about a month after the first watering. I don't know what method you are using to grow them but they seem to do better if thay have that rest period.
    Best of luck to you and your beautiful plants!!!
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    If he's having the same problem I've experienced with various plants, it's the lack of control over the watering schedule in summer. It'll sometimes rain several days in a row and that's awfully tough on a lot of plants and not just on cacti. Especially if it gets hot and steamy in between rains. I've always gone extra coarse with orchid potting mixes, for example, to help them survive that kind of thing.
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