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    Hardin, Montana, wants to take in Guantanamo prisoners

    from today's Homeland Security Daily Wire - The Business of Homeland Security:

    Hardin, Montana, wants to take in Guantanamo prisoners
    Published 28 May 2009

    Hardin, Montana (pop. 4,300) had a problem: it invested $27 million in a 464-bed modern prison facility which is standing empty; the city council offered to use it to house Guantanamo prisoners; Montana's congressional delegation objects

    Hardin, Montana, is a small town (population 4,300), and as is the case with many other small towns in America, it is hurting for jobs these days. It also has a surplus of prime real estate, assuming that anything other than buffalo steaks can be called prime in the microscopic hamlet in southeastern Montana.

    Jack Rogers writes in Business Facilities that the hard times are evident everywhere you look. Downtown Hardin, not a bustling city center even in good times, is quieter than ever. The Dollar Store reportedly is going out of business and the Mini Mall soon will be shuttered. A few blocks away, a new $27-million detention facility also sits empty.

    A few years ago, when they floated some bonds to build the Two Rivers Regional Correctional Facility, Hardin's city fathers hoped the prison would generate employment opportunities beyond the handful of guards. Short-order cooks would be engaged to feed the staff and inmates, and a couple of locksmiths would be on call to keep the latches working, and more.

    It didn't work out that way. The facility has yet to house any prisoners, even though it was ready to receive them two years ago.

    The 464-bed prison has surveillance cameras, a magnetometer, and dozens of orange prison jump suits in a storage room filled with shoes, towels, blankets, razors, and underwear. It also has a generous supply of riot helmets, gas masks, batons, shields, and guns for guards. There are no prisoners, though.

    This is when the leaders of the down decided to improvise. When they caught wind of the debate in Washington over President Obama's decision to close Guantanamo, Greg Smith, Hardin's economic development administrator, decided to act. He announced to Hardin's city council that he had come up with an idea that could solve everybody's problem.

    He suggested that Hardin take all of the detainees in Guantanamo and bring them to the prison in Hardin. ''It would bring jobs. Believe it or not, it would even bring hope and opportunity,'' he later told CNN.

    Smith told CNN that the cells could be modified to keep detainees separated. He points out that because only terror detainees would be housed at Two Rivers, they could not radicalize run-of-the-mill felons. Smith also told CNN that a large dormitory room in the prison, now filled with empty bunk beds, could be converted into a mosque.

    Hardin's city council voted 5-0 to endorse the idea.

    Montana's congressional delegation, however, objected. The state's two U.S. senators made it clear that Smith's proposal is a non-starter. "Housing potential terrorists in Montana is not good for our state," said Senator Max Baucus. ''These people stop at nothing. Their primary goal in life, and death, is to destroy America.'' Senator Jon Tester also weighed in -- ''I just don't think it's appropriate, that's all. I don't think they know what they're asking for.''
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    That's good. Maybe they'll actually have rights if they are on American soil.
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    the state promised to house prisoners there if it was built...it was finished in 2007 and now the state has gone back on its word.....thats a poor chunk of country.....good paying jobs are needed....besides any escapies would prolly head south.....thats Crow Indian Territory.....only more dangerous chunk of country in the state would be the Blackfoot Reservation....i grew up and live on the Sioux and Assiniboine reservation.....i REFUSE to stop on the Blackfoot when i go to Glacier/Kalispell area.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfn View Post
    That's good. Maybe they'll actually have rights if they are on American soil.
    to hell with that they ARE NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS.......they do not have those kinds of rights....do not deserve those rights.....as far as im concerned they should just been shot and not brought over here.....
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    Guantanamo was originally built in hopes that it would be beyond the law. That turned out not to be the case anyway, so who cares where the prison is?

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    hahah Prisoners?! Please....last I checked prisoners did not get healthcare... Make em do something useful rather then keeping them fed and warm in front of a TV. These b******* get more health coverage then the average Joe. Put them to work for something useful and feed em them strictly bacon and pig's milk....

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    alright....interesting idea....i could prolly get behind it.....but ive never heard of milking a pig

    as for their conditions.....just forget to pay the heat bill bout January.....be interesting to see how they handle -40 or lower
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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Führer View Post
    to hell with that they ARE NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS.......they do not have those kinds of rights....do not deserve those rights.....as far as im concerned they should just been shot and not brought over here.....
    Quote Originally Posted by F R e N c H 3 z View Post
    hahah Prisoners?! Please....last I checked prisoners did not get healthcare... Make em do something useful rather then keeping them fed and warm in front of a TV. These b******* get more health coverage then the average Joe. Put them to work for something useful and feed em them strictly bacon and pig's milk....

    I'm actually friends with several people who were held at Guantanamo Bay. They committed no crime and when they were released several years later, they were not charged with anything.

    There are innocent people being held at Guantanamo Bay. Even guilty ones should be treated like humans.

    Also, I don't like the idea of the bacon and pig milk. I'm a Muslim and I would rather die than eat pig. During the Holocaust, do you think it would be okay for Nazis to force Jewish prisoners to eat pig? If not, why do you think it should be done to Muslims?
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