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    Lowe's most definitely has it, so go back there and look. It is outside like someone said in big bales for landscaping. It's not too expensive, and it will last you a long time as a hobbyist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naich View Post
    what can i do
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    Yup, the big green/white bag of Greensmix Sphagnum Peat Moss or Premier Sphagnum Peat Moss is all you need. The Premier bag looks like this:



    Get rid of that Miracle Grow asap. I had a guy buy a $100+ Nep hamata cutting from me and plant it in Miracle Grow, which of course killed it within a few months. Then he wanted me to send him another cutting or a refund. All I did give him was chastisement however since I had a website which told him how to grow it and I'd even sent the cutting rooted and potted all he HAD to do upon receipt was give it the right conditions...

    Anyway, go buy some Sphagnum Peat Moss today. You'll have to look way out back by the big bags of mulch and stuff NOT by the small bags of houseplant supplies. My bag was 2.2 CU Ft and it ran me a whole $3.00 but it may only last me 5 years considering I don't like using peat very often, I like using Long Fibered Sphagnum Moss (or "Orchid Moss" at Lowes) for most of my CPs. If you don't wanna buy the Greensmix bale and have to store it til needed later then just buy the orchid moss which is by the houseplant supplies. It's a brick that looks like this:



    Orchid Moss runs about $5 a brick and I believe the small brick is enough for six or eight 4" pots.


    Incase no one has told you yet, make sure you only water your CPs with Rainwater, Reverse Osmosis or Distilled water. Tap water or well water is generally not pure enough for these plants and will kill them just as fast as incorrect soil.

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    wow thnks for all the help...ill go get the mix tommorow...and i have a pretty large bag of long fibered spagnum moss.

    and do i need to still add in perlite to that?
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    If using the peatmoss then I would add at least 50% perlite to make sure it's open enough. I use #2 sized turkey/chicken grit in my peat to add drainage and open the mix because perlite often "floats out" of the peat when you water it.

    I myself don't recommend using sand instead of perlite because all I can find at hardware stores is playsand and that seems to not be as good to add drainage/aeration to soils as large chunks of Turkey grit or Shultz Aquatc Plant Soil (check HD/Lowes by the pond supplies for the APS). But there are some people who love playsand.

    If using plain LFS just take two dry handfuls and grind them together between your hands to make them into various sized shreds. This gives you a very nice all purpose soil for Cps and orchids planted in pots up to about 4" or so. After this (6"+ pots) you should add some shredded CYPRESS mulch or fine orchid bark or pumice (good luck finding fine grade pumice) to improve the drainage cos a big mass of pure LFS can stay too wet and not allow airflow through the roots.

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    okay thanks...so just plain aps.....hope ill find it. thanks

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    You probably can't grow CPs in JUST aquatic plant soil as it's a baked clay grit rather like kitty litter, it's not actually "soil" at all. I only meant you can use it as a drainage substitute for turkey grit, large grit sand or perlite to add TO your peat moss.

    If you already understood what I meant, sorry just wanted to be sure you knew APS was used as an additive.

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    yes as an additive...like a perlite subsitute...the question is can i just have peat and spanum?

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