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    Quote Originally Posted by quogue View Post
    Maybe you should jack this guy first chance you get... skateboard to the back of the head!
    With a can of Pepper spray at the ready in case his friends go for you, that'll stop em short.

    It won't help if you do nothing, they will definitely get worse. You have a better chance if you hurt them, they might keep their distance then.

    Otherwise, move. I'd rather commute longer and pay more for less than live in a crap neighborhood. I've lived in a crap neighborhood for awhile in Brooklyn and I moved... couldn't be happier!

    Personally, I think it's good to move every so often anyways
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    a skateboard may inflict more damage than my knuckles and bat recommendation, very nice thinking

    ---------- Post added at 04:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:28 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by dustin View Post
    I would also back up contacting the police justs because you were physically injured by them, and you really weren't doing anything wrong. i have no experience with this kind of environment so im not exactly sure on what to do.

    you could try to take some martial arts classes just to make sure you know you can defend yourself, at least in hand to hand combat. i haven't been in a fight before but im a red belt in taekwondo, and now regretting that i quit and didnt get my black belt (one belt away, but i would have gone into a jr. black belt at the time) though i also study a lot of martial arts and since i dont do a lot of sports i guess i sort of teach myself what i didn't learn under a teacher. ...taekwondo, taekkyon, hapkido, taijitsu, wushu and more. i personally enjoy them all but just be sure never to use them offensively, starting the fight. Defending yourself is something i think is a great thing to know just in case. pressure points are fun. though i like to know them not to mess around with them, some i have an idea about that can paralyze arms and legs for few minutes.

    i watched something on tv i think it was surviving disasters or something. pepper spray equals some type of alcohol and a hot pepper powder mix in a spray bottle. (what we learn on tv) Habanero all the way heard there one of the hottest.

    i also agree with just try to ignore them and take action only if they come onto your property, i know loud music can be annoying, depending one what it is i listen to everthing including screamo so it might not bother me as much, but you might be able to block it out with your own music. um i thought i read rock would go into your nep window. security cameras there catch them in the act. im sure if any major damage is done to your collection we will all be here to help you get back on your feet.
    If you do take some classes and learn them well make sure u really use it on them to give them a lesson, standing up for yourself in front of the odds can/may earn you mutual respect in the circles of mature people. What I mean is even the worst of enemies give each other mutual respect for they know they next 1 is a formidable person/combatant it just may prompt them to leave you in peace. Many have the mentality in the street that they wanna test you to you limits just to see what your about if you show them much heart chances are they got their answer n they will back off. Well majority in Socal does it this way, if they do respect you for having heart it can prolly be said that they are a step away from being just plain wannabees, hey they understand the art of street estimations
    But again if they are pure immature the probability of showing you respect for heart are slim, a chance u may want to analyze for possible repercussions. To me i'd give any one the respect they deserve specially when they are against odds, not that I encourage them to be in such situations. Even in some cultures old/new not to honor your enemy's presence is considered extremely rude.
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    Sounds like a tough situation. I had neighbors who were loud alcoholics and dealt drugs when I lived in vermont. The neighborhood wasn't exactly good either, but I sort of understand where you are coming from when you mention the police won't do much for you / word gets around. Do what you need to do to protect yourself though.

    If the punk kids threaten you or vandalize your property do get the police involved asap. Who knows maybe they will get busted for a noise violation sooner rather than later. Surveillance wouldn't be a bad idea, although could be costly to buy...but could provide evidence if needed. Moving is probably your last resort, but could give you peace of mind if this continues. Again this is just my opinion and in the end it is up to you to decide what action if any you are going to take. Good luck with everything.

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    Are you the only one in the neighborhood who is bothered by them? A crowd like that should have pissed off plenty of people by now and maybe you should find those people. Complaints from multiple people carry more weight and there might be other, more enforceable violations. You didn't mention the riffraff's specific living situation, but 20 non-related people in a single residence might be a violation health codes, zoning or other local requirements. With enough complaints from enough people, something will get done. And I agree with Swords; don't call them punks.
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    dont do direct confrontation unless yah have nothing left to loose.....you might not know how many of them it takes to beat your **** but you know how many they are gonna use which is a handy bit of info....their is no such thing as a fair fight, its going to be multiple individuals against yourself.....unless your gonna go in there shooting aint much use going over there and since you initiated the confrontation that led to the shooting you will likely go to jail.....

    go the cop route, if they dont do anything go to the city council as they are the cops boss's unless your a smaller community that contracts with the county sheriff, if thats the case go to the county commissioners....these are elected officials that tend to like being reelected so complaints tend to get somewhere with them especially if you can get multiple ppl to complain.....

    cant fathom the mentality that makes someone sit in their house afraid to go out....i live on a poor indian reservation with a high crime rate, next town to the east beat out Detroit and DC for highest murder rate per capita several years ago and im not afraid to walk the streets over there even not packing anything bigger than my pocket knife with the 2 inch blade.....

    sitting in your house afraid is no way to live, do something.....
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    Buy a gun, don't load it and show it around.
    You can have it in your house as much as you want.

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    Well, you've probably already considered this and have your own reasons, but I'd say move. You shouldn't have to be scared of asking the cops for help, especially when you're in the right like this, but it does happen. There are only so many officers to go around, and in many communities that means that some crimes go unpunished. Tit-for-tat is a bad strategy here, especially in your particular situation. Retributive violence could get you seriously hurt, killed, or thrown in jail/prison - even if you're defending yourself, have witnesses to back you up, feel your life is threatened, etc.
    The people in charge are obviously doing some things wrong here; either they're incompetent, or they're ignoring your neighborhood in favor of others, or both. That's unacceptable; screw your local police and community government. Go to their bosses - write a letter to your governor and state representatives. You don't even have to identify yourself. Just tell them that you've been assaulted and threatened and feel you can't do anything about it, even if you ask the police to protect your identity, due to the possibility of retributive violence. Mention that you're considering arming yourself for your own protection. If you've got the time and patience, write an original letter to every relevant office you contact; on the off chance that they compare notes, it'll make you look all the more sincere. Send copies of the letter to the press - local newspapers are good, but regional ones are even better. If you luck out and catch the attention of the media, they'll be able to create far more pressure than a neighborhood watch from the bad part of town could ever hope to.
    If you really have no other options, get a weapon and really learn to use it. Find yourself some unarmed self-defense classes - preferably one where you learn about disarming attackers and how to prevent yourself from being disarmed. Remember that if you bring a gun to a fight, it can wind up in the other guy's hands with just one fumble. (The same applies to most any weapon, but losing a gun is a more urgent danger than a bat or knife.) Also, read up on the protections and limitations of your local laws. It's a really ugly reality, but in many jurisdictions it's safer for you legally to kill an attacker than it is to use physical force to hold them off. If you really feel that you have no one but yourself to rely on in this situation, you must be prepared for the consequences.
    I'm really sorry to hear you're in such a tough spot. I don't think it bodes well for you that your neighborhood is so resigned to this kind of thing that they all just let it happen. At the risk of beating a dead horse - get out of there.
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    Well the problems seem to be resolved as I guess it was there alpha male that fought me
    Now when I go out front there all whats up and hows it going.
    Weird.
    I don't get people sometimes/most of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elrohir View Post
    Buy a gun, don't load it and show it around.
    You can have it in your house as much as you want.
    depending on how you do it, that can land you with a fine or a short bit of jail time, threatening someone with a firearm by flashing it is a huge problem if they didnt initiate the confrontation.....in Montana i can have a gun holstered to my belt in open view all i want, perfectly legal.....taking that gun out of the holster and waving it around when no one has threatened yah can land yah with a fine and/or 5 to 30 days in jail depending on what yah did....

    also there is no point in having a gun if you arent going to load it, what are you going to do if the other guy also pulls one? throw it at them?

    dont give advice on firearms if you dont know the laws, half the crap that ppl recommend on here will get you thrown in jail faster than the other guy.....i am very pro gun, very pro concealed carry and most definitely pro killing a SOB that comes after me......HOWEVER never pull a gun on someone you aint willing to shoot, dont flash the damn thing to show how big and bad you are because your going to be the idiot sitting in jail for a week thinking bout the dumb stunt you just pulled.....it is perfectly legal for me to kill someone that has come after me, however if i start the confrontation on that particular day, i dont care what the history between me and the guy is, i go to prison for manslaughter.....
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