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    Adam, my heart goes out to you. Please try not to feel shame or guilt over this. Your remorse and concern shows that you're true to your beliefs, even if you weren't able to reflect them in your actions this particular time.
    I have not been in military combat but I'm from a military family and have many friends in the service. I have experienced some truly terrible things having lived in a combat zone, and heard even worse since then. What I can say is that you can't keep silent about this. It's good that you posted here, but I think you should also find some sort of support group specifically focused on military staff and combat trauma; I get the sense that you're feeling fairly isolated and alone in this right now. It can be hard for your heart to acknowledge this, but at least try to know, mentally, that you aren't the only person who's gone through this kind of hardship.
    It's probably uncomfortable, and I know you said you didn't want to talk to people in Iraq about it, but what you need to do the most is talk face-to-face with another human being about this. Do you have someone in your unit that you can trust, or maybe a CO outside your unit that you have a close rapport with? I know talking to your own commander about this is probably the last thing you want to do, but if you're having nightmares and coming back to the same thoughts over and over, that's a liability to your unit and the people responsible for you need to know.
    It's not your fault that you were put into this situation. While you could have not pulled the trigger, you did. It may have been a mistake, but I don't blame you for trying to do your job and protect yourself and your comrades. Your commanders are responsible for making sure that you are properly equipped, trained and briefed for your mission, and it's their job to take care of you. If you conceal your emotional condition now, you're not only preventing them from doing their duty, but you're also putting your unit and the people you're there to serve at risk. Most importantly you're putting yourself at risk. If you're not well, how can you expect to do right by the people that love and depend on you?
    I know the military culture gets in the way of asking for help, and that likely a lot of the guys you work with have closed off their emotions or made sport of the situation. That's probably very alienating for someone of your background. But try to remember that that's just the way that they've learned to cope, from the cultures that they were raised in. It may seem very disillusioning and cold, but they're all just trying to survive a very ugly experience.
    Remember that you, your brothers, your commanders, and even the civilians and the enemy all are just there trying to live on. You will see the worst of this conflict - corruption and hatred and desperation. The human animal isn't designed with warfare in mind, and it's hard to see past the horrors of combat. Try to remember that, at least at some level, you're there to help. Life is not something we want to compromise on, but occasionally you must kill in order to prevent your own death. You can do the most by living on.
    The world is a harsh and lonely place; sometimes we're placed at odds with one another. I'm sure you're familiar with this saying; life is suffering. But you can curb your pain by learning from the experiences of others. You should really speak with someone in person about this if you can possibly muster the strength. Ask for a hug; try to remember what it means to feel the warmth and heartbeat of another person. That's why you're here, isn't it?
    If you need someone to talk with in private about this, PM me. I'll give you the email-to-text bridge for my cell phone. I'm not always available, but I sleep poorly anyways so you can send a message any time without worrying about disturbing me.
    Please don't doubt yourself. I know you're still on the path.
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    Adam, You said it yourself. They attacked you first and they had no intention of talking. Trust me if they would have a chance they would kill every one of us. This person knew what would happen once he gave the first shot. You are also correct, this person could have been a father, brother, or a son but you also have to think that not all people are raised the same and have the same sanity. Remember that you are doing a job in the military and is not in your best intent to kill someone. There is a big difference between a duty and a desire to kill.

    I know it is hard for you but remember why you are in Iraq, to keep your loved ones safe! I know killing someone is really hard especially when everything you are doing is against your religion. The best to do is to ask for forgiveness and pray for the soul of the person who was trying to kill you. If you are feeling this way is because you are still sane and care about people. Just like everyone on this thread, Adam, remember who you are, and if you feel your dream is out of control, seek professional help.
    If you think you are still not ready to talk about it with anyone else, we are here for you! or at least I am here for you. You can always count on us. Take care Adam.

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    What you are experiencing is normal of PTSD symptoms, which, unfortunately, is normal for combat vets. Don't try to handle it on your own. I don't know if they offer counselors, psychiatrists, or any medication while you are still over there, but if they do, take advantage of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by back2eight View Post
    What you are experiencing is normal of PTSD symptoms, which, unfortunately, is normal for combat vets. Don't try to handle it on your own. I don't know if they offer counselors, psychiatrists, or any medication while you are still over there, but if they do, take advantage of it.
    they do......ive got a cousin that had to visit with onbe while over there.....help is available, but yah gotta ask......if you dont ask, unless yah freak out it is assumed all is well....
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    I cannot imagine what it must be like to go through that. Like the others said, it was either him or you. Had you not done that, it may have been you or your mates that would have been killed. And I also think there is a distinction between murder, and killing. Murder is wrong, killing, not so much as it depends on the situation. War is one.

    My cousin came back from Falujah in '03, really, really in need of help. Most of his friends had been killed, and he saw some of the worst fighting that Iraq had. He had a classic case of PTSD. Please, seek help! It will only fester and get worse. Years down the road you may think you have it buried, but it will resurface. See a councilor, psychologist or psychiatrist, even a religious councilor. But you need to talk to someone to work this out. You owe it to yourself. I wish you the best.

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    Adam please seek the help you need to get through this ordeal. Let there be no doubt that you did the right thing; you were assigned a mission and accomplished it as you were trained to do. Now you need to take care of yourself or you become a danger to yourself and those around you. As others have said, this will only fester and get worse if you do not seek help. Thank you for your service!

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    Quote Originally Posted by back2eight View Post
    What you are experiencing is normal of PTSD symptoms, which, unfortunately, is normal for combat vets. Don't try to handle it on your own. I don't know if they offer counselors, psychiatrists, or any medication while you are still over there, but if they do, take advantage of it.
    Yes and if the situation gets out of hand they can force me to go seek help. "Commander reffered" if I remember right. I was in training for this sort of thing before my MOS (job) got switched to MP (Military Police). Night terrors... A proper name.
    I'm surprised how many replies this post received so quickly! I'm nervous about coming home.. So use to the way things are here.. Was hard to go on R&R actually... was paranoid for a week! I'm afraid of what my family would say if they knew what was going on here...
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    Time heals all wounds.
    Others have made it thru what you are going thru, and you will too.

    Life really is short, so hold on to the good things and let go of the rest.
    As you see, a lot of good people here who are empathetic with what
    you are going thru.

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    But then, common sense isn't so common anymore, is it.


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