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Thread: so much for "one man, one vote"

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    the intention is to get around the system to get the candidates they want that would not get elected normally ......often its ability not skin color that means someone gets elected over another.....unfortunately some think skin color should take priority cause their ability is lacking......
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    I don't understand when people automatically assume something is "racist". If one person is more qualified over another, it's not necessarily racial discrimination... Yet accuse someone of that, they almost have to do something about it.
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    as a business owner i dont give much of anything to how an employee looks, nationality, sexual orientation....what i care about is performance.....dont care if your a transvestite Kenyan with a hunchback and 3 teeth, if yah can get the job done quickly and efficiently ill hire yah and pay yah.....just dont sneak up on me i hate affermitive action and the quota crap some colleges use to give spots to minorities......ability and work ethic should get yah ahead and nothing else.....

    actually at my place of business i am the minority, im surrounded by women, several of whom are native and my wife is Irish so i really cant win......actually if yah look at hourly wages one of the native gals i pay nearly 25% more than me for a much easier job simply cause i dont want to do it, i hate selling advertising......also vote for minorities quite a bit.....infact most primaries i vote on the democratic ticket to help make sure one of my state representatives that happens to be native gets on the Nov ticket.....usually means ive got no say in the primaries over the presidential candidate i want but Frank usually does me more good in Helena than any idiot in DC....

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    btw i didnt assume anything is racist.....however it is racially motivated......they want someone that looks like them in office and are willing to tweak the rules to get that rather than getting someone with true ability to run that it just makes sense to vote for.....
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    My town has a 9-person town council and, because of state law, no more than 6 can be from one party. Each voter can vote for 6, but can only give one vote to any particular candidate. That judge's solution, if applied here, would just say that we're free to use our six votes however we like; giving as many to a particular candidate as we want.

    A better solution, and a change I've been wanting to see for a long time, would be for each voter here to be able to vote for one candidate, not 6. The top nine would win, whether they have more than 50% or not. That would take away the power of the D and R machines to stack the deck and we'd see some alternative candidates elected, including our share of flakes and wingnuts, no doubt. The term for that is representative democracy and it's something few of us have experienced. The judge doesn't have the nads for that, even though it more cleanly fits in with most people's concept of how a vote should be conducted. My guess is that his 6-vote system would elect more of the mainstream candidates than my 1-vote scheme, while allowing a token or two to be elected.
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    Bruce, we have similar for most elections......may have 10 ppl running for the school board but there are two open seats so we can vote for any two but only one vote per candidate....
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    I agree... This reaks of Tammany Hall.

    This is not fair in my opinion unless you can only vote once per candidate. Unfortunately unfair does not always equal illegal. Not so sure illegal equals illegal anymore. Really just depends on how the current courts are stacked. Another Tammany Hall teaching.

    It allows one or more candidates to be unfairly lifted above other candidates because of thier appeal to a certain minority group.

    The problem is that liberals have turned to the Judicial branch of the government to circumvent the checks and balances built into the consitution. Something it was never intended to do. What the Judge says, goes. How is this fair? Where are the checks and balances to this?

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    Relax. That voting scheme will increase representation by people outside the mainstream and, given what the mainstream tends to do, I'm in favor of anything that does something different. There is nothing unfair about that system.
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    I'd say what I think about the whole scheme but I'd get banned for the colorful words that would fly. rattler, do you have the link to the news story?

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