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Thread: so much for "one man, one vote"

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    Quote Originally Posted by herenorthere View Post
    Relax. That voting scheme will increase representation by people outside the mainstream and, given what the mainstream tends to do, I'm in favor of anything that does something different. There is nothing unfair about that system.
    It is a corrupt act with the intent to get certain individuals elected. A scheme that gives someone an unfair advantage is deplorable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rattler View Post
    dont care if your a transvestite Kenyan with a hunchback and 3 teeth
    lol. I'm coming by your shop!

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    Anyone whose political views run outside the mainstream should be thrilled about such a system. And it's perfectly fair. Everyone gets the same number of votes and can use them how they wish. How is that unfair? In my town, I get six votes for town council but I have no choice but to evenly distribute them among a bunch of party-endorsed hacks. I'd much rather give all my votes to the one or two candidates who I'd especially like to have win a seat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by herenorthere View Post
    Anyone whose political views run outside the mainstream should be thrilled about such a system. And it's perfectly fair. Everyone gets the same number of votes and can use them how they wish. How is that unfair? In my town, I get six votes for town council but I have no choice but to evenly distribute them among a bunch of party-endorsed hacks. I'd much rather give all my votes to the one or two candidates who I'd especially like to have win a seat.
    Bruce,
    obviously you havent read this whole thread, if you had, you would understand why it isnt fair..go back and read the 3rd post in this thread..

    now explain how rigging the system to make sure people from one group get more votes is "fair"..

    Scot

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    It's basic math...

    If candidate A gets 600 partial votes from 100 people, and Candidiate B gets 599 votes from 599 people, then Candidate B should win because 599 people voted for him.

    Not to mention the fact that it was made blatently obvious that the intent was to get a person from a certain race elected. This violates the civil rights of the other races regardless of what proportion of the populace they constitute.

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    "First Latino Board Member Is Elected in Port Chester"

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/17/ny...17chester.html

    gee..what a surprise..
    a Latino person has never won before..
    this time one did..
    I wonder what was different this time?
    perhaps this time a Latino candidate had a strong message?
    perhaps his ideas really resonated with the voters?
    perhaps he won because the MAJORITY of voters felt he was the right man for the job??

    hmmm..somehow I dont think thats how he won..
    he got the most the votes..but a majority of the voters didnt vote for him..
    the scheme worked exactly as intended..

    Scot

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    As I mentioned earlier, I'd prefer it if each person only has one vote for that board. I figure the town previously had elections like my town, with everyone getting to vote for a multiple candidates (6 here) to fill their 6 trustee seats (9 town council seats here). That system is set up to ensure that Ds and Rs win every seat.

    To make it perfectly fair, just give everyone a single vote and the top six (or 9 or whatever) vote getters win. The party machines/political mainstream would consider it anarchy because a candidate preferred by a smaller number of voters can get elected. Giving each voter six votes is messier than just giving each one vote, but I figure the judge did it that way because it would give the D and R machines a more reliable outcome, with fewer "others" elected.

    In Port Chester, 2 Rs, 2 Ds, a Conservative and an Independent were elected (the Hispanic was one of the Rs). It probably would have been a mix of Ds & Rs with the city's previous voting system and any candidate who didn't toe the party line would have been shut out. If each person got one vote, it might of turned out the same, but I think it would have been even wackier.
    Bruce in CT

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