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    National Guard

    So i owe like 60,000 for my student loans and i havent a clue how im going to pay it all off. So i was leaning towards National Guard or air force or something along those lines as they will pay off my dept. Trying to get first hand info on weather its worth it or not. The only thing keeping me from it is i have a 1 yr old girl. Im going to speak to a recruiter but they get payed for every person hey get signed up so they will say ne thing to get me to sign up. Id rather speak to somone who has done this or is active and get their opinion.

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    I don't know anyone who's done the National Guard specifically, but I have know people in the Reserve and the Coast Guard and they seemed to have much better things to say about it than my friends and relatives in other branches of service. This will have a profound effect on the lives of you and your whole family, so I encourage you to do lots of research. Best luck.
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    Yea like i said, having a new family is the hardest part, the only thing i am worried about is being sent to war or not being home to se my daughter grow up. Thanks for the kind words of wisdom.

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    From what I remember hearing is the GI bill pays up to $3000 per year towards your schooling, quite a ways off the mark of $60K...

    Here's a link to the new model of the GI Bill see if you can unravel it... LOL http://usmilitary.about.com/od/gibil.../newgibill.htm

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    thats to go to school if i already owe they will pay up to 50,000 towards paying it off.

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    I have very little direct experience with reserve forces (trained them a few times) but joining the military was probably the best thing I ever did. The military in general is a good place to learn a skill and build a good foundation for the rest of your life. I did 20 years in the Army and retired a little over 5 years ago. I was able to receive training in two high tech fields and now have skill sets that I will be able to draw on for the rest of my life; not to mention health care and a decent pension. I realize it is not a life style for everyone, but I think a lot of young adults would greatly benefit from the personal responsibility and discipline that is instilled in you during your training. As for a family, I won’t lie to you this may be harder on your family than it is on you, but there are also a lot of programs to help them as well. I hope this helps; however, if you have any specific questions or concerns please let me know.

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    I'm glad to hear you've had a positive experience ellison, but I've had just about the absolute opposite in terms of the medical benefits and family support programs. My father is in the army; he's a field surgeon and reached colonel several years before recently retiring. My family was basically ruined by his time in the service. While we were living abroad with him during his first deployment, we were fed disinformation about the danger of our area - while blockades were keeping supplies out, and nearby neighborhoods were being raided by guerillas, the military news service told us that combat was cooling down. My mom only learned the truth because our relatives stateside sent concerned letters and newspaper clippings about what was really going on. My dad's health has been strained to the point where he may not be able to work any more, and he's an emotional wreck from having to choose between work and family - add PTSD to that after his last tour in Iraq. Now that he's of no use to them, he's been cast aside. His second marriage is also on the rocks, his finances are in shambles, and he has very few options for support now that he's re-entering the civilian workforce. I shudder to think what would've become of him if he weren't high-ranking and well-trained.
    While I was still covered on TriCare it was, far and away, the worst experience with an insurer I've ever had - and I was getting services on base. (Keep in mind that, since they dumped me off his plan, I've been dealing with state-sponsored insurers and low-income health clinics.) I've been chronically ill since I was a child and they could not wait to get rid of me - they even started denying me important tests and medications about a year before I no longer qualified as a dependent, because if I were diagnosed with the serious condition my doctors suspected I have, they wouldn't have been able to drop me. Their reasoning was that, if a condition was discovered, there wouldn't be enough time left on my coverage for treatment - for a chronic condition I'll have for the rest of my life. As a result, I've had to drop out of school and have been skirting homelessness ever since. So, if you think service will mean that you and your family will receive lifelong, quality medical care, keep in mind that there are some very heavy caveats.
    As much as I have to gripe about my own family's situation, many of my friends who served had it much worse. I don't even want to get into the details, because it's too painful to think about.
    I've met a lot of wonderful people through my tangental affiliations with the military, but they're all just grunts. The ones running the show... I don't have anything good to say about them. If you're going to go for it, keep your head down, watch your buddies' backs, get as much training as you can, and get back out as soon as the opportunity presents itself. To all of you who do serve, God bless you, I wish I could too - but even if I were able, I'd have serious doubts about this chain of command. Also, I hope I don't offend anyone with the above - I'm just being frank about what I've been through. My experience is probably - hopefully - not typical, and I believe the military has been making efforts to improve the support system for families since our time abroad. But be skeptical, and be informed, because this really is something that will change the rest of your life, in very profound ways.
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    Joe, I am sorry to hear that your family's experience with military service was so bad. And I must admit that it sure has its ups and downs, but I spent most of my career overseas and had great support for both me and my family.

    Keith

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