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    Thing is, what happens when the college records are "clean" (whatever that is supposed to mean)? What will the next piece of proof of his suitability for having been elected need to be? College records would surely not be the end of it, just like the long form birth certificate wasn't really "all we'd need to see". It was funny Trump wouldn't even look at it once they released it... "I don't need to look at that I'll get my own copy!" LOL Everyone seems to forget he did already provide a perfectly legal birth certificate document called a short form, which is exactly the same as what I have as my birth certificate anytime I need to show one. I have never seen my own "long form" as the state of MN does not give that out when you ask for a birth certificate.

    I've read enough about conspiracies and worked alongside their adherents enough to know that conspiracies are never put to bed they just get deeper and more convoluted. The more proof you provide, the more proof is needed, that's how "uncovering conspiracies" works, there is always one missing piece that will make it all fall into place and justify everything. "If only we could get ahold of the... then you'd all see!" When was the last big conspiracy considered "solved" by it's believers? Never is a firm date. Just like all those, the Obama conspiracies will be going on long after he's retired from the presidency, look at all the books and merchandise geared towards the Obama conspiracies. Almost makes me wonder if he isn't behind all the conspiracies and getting rich off 'em! LOL I can't even remember all the Obama conspiracies at this point but being a fan of conspiracies as entertainment it's been fun watching it all unfold.

    Don't forget there were a number of people in government willing to change the natural born law so Arnold Schwarzenegger could run for president before the whole Obama long form birth certificate thing flared up. I actually had forgotten hearing about this - someone at work reminded me of it the other day! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Av8tor1 View Post
    If only as many had shown this level of suspicion to Iraq having WMD's and were about to use them.

    Thousands of our sons and daughters may still be alive today.
    What a shame we get so distracted so easily when so much truly needs our attention and diligence.
    Agreed! Why we are not investigating some of the former administrations staff for perjury is beyond me. They obviously skirted the truth to get approval from Congress.

    Now Obama, he didn't even go to Congress to attack Libya. Apparently we take orders from the UN now? I personally believe this is an impeachable offense. Power clearly resides within Congress for Military invasions. Not saying Congress, riddled with war mongering special interest groups, wouldn't have approved. But we are not a dictatorship. And that's what dictators do. Weild power without consent from the people.

    There is a reason power is split amongst the branches of government. The most important reason is that as power consolidates into the hands of the few, the easier it is for the few to be corrupt or downright evil to take the reigns. Some of the worst names in history all come from when power was consolidated... Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Lennon, Mao Zedong, King George III, etc.
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    as i said swords.....really dont care what they say, just care that he cant arbitrarily hide them.....same with the BC.....figure they likely show nothing that changes anything......my whole point is he, nor anyone else should be allowed to hide them.....had Palin tried this you would be screaming.....just cause the guy is on your side does not give him a pass....my whole point is keeping things transparent and Obama ran on a similar platform.....the fact you aint pissed bout him than hiding stuff is idiotic.....

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    guess my point might seem odd to some, but i deal with open records and such on a regular basis, hell near daily basis......in reality very little is truly sealed and you cant access......there is a reason Obama had to seal his own college stuff, its something that normally aint a secret....while Obama is the one that has to request his BC short of a court order by a judge to open it it is no where close to a privileged document.....ive had to produce mine a number of times for a number of different things......hell i think i had to produce it to put my name on the Elks Lodge gaming license from the state last year.....it aint a secret document.....

    a very important part of our system is keeping things open and transparent, most here defending Obama were pissed at the stuff Bush hid.....guess what? i was pissed at Bush over it to.....im currently in a battle with elected school board members that think they can hold secret meetings with out involving the public....transparency is very important if you truly care about our system.....

    if the college records show nothing of interest great.....i figured the BC wouldnt......granted i do think there is something in his college stuff that shows he worked the system cause as i said it would mesh nicely with his psych profile, but i dont necessarily think what that is would change a dang thing about his eligibility for presidency.....

    a good example of this is when i tore into a school board member with the same arrogant and narcissistic psych profile for hiding stuff....called the man a liar in print, he didnt care one bit bout that, he was pissed i told everyone he had a key to all the buildings......WTF? there is something in his college records he thinks will embarrass him but that does not necessarily mean its anything that will matter to most ppl.....
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    The reason I don't care what his college records say is because I don't care what anyone's college records say, Palin, Bush or otherwise. Doesn't matter to me at all what someones grades are. Is bad grades what you're looking for or what is it you think is lurking in there - some allegiance to a secret society?

    What matters to me is what the person is doing once they are in office and what he's been doing in office is kowtowing to the republicans all the way. It really is a disgrace how much he rolls over for them. I hoped he would be stronger than that. I hope he doesn't let them destroy medicare in place of coupons but he won't be president forever so I suppose someday someone will before we ever get to retire.

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    really dont care with what they say......just care they aint secret......ive sought legal action against the school board to get my hands on documents i knew through other sources exactly what they said.....here like there, it aint the documents themselves, its the point he doesnt have a right to hide them.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RL7836 View Post
    Many people use this 'excuse' or some version of it to opt-out of voting. While this is obviously their (& your) right & prerogative, I feel that your logic is flawed on several counts (& to clarify online would take far more typing prowess than I possess - sorry). By refusing to vote, you are providing more & more power to special interest groups. As flawed as some things are currently, continuing to give some of these idiots even more power will not fix anything and create far more issues than we are dealing with currently...
    I, in no way, intended for what I said to mean that I would not be participating in the next election.

    I simply will not be voting either Republican or Democrat, as both institutions have proved themselves to be equally corrupt.

    By assuming that not voting for one of two parties means that I, or others, would not be participating in the upcoming election is totally assumptive and completely undemocratic.
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    Swords and Dex I like how you guys think. This BC stuff is right there with aliens, 2012 and bigfoot.

    Trump for pres?!? That happens and the whole country is officially on meth.

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    Talking

    "Donald Trump often talks about running as a Republican, which is surprising," said Seth Meyers. "I just assumed he was running as a joke."

    LOL

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