I wish I had pics of his place. I thought I had left my camera at home and found it that night in the suitcase. His sarrs are amazingly huge. I really really want a reptilian rose now. And Asheville is stunning, right in the mountains. The kids were a bit hyper after the 6 hr drive there, including blowing a tire on the highway. While at Josh's house they covered themselves in mud from a ditch and wrestled on top of half a dozen pots of S. flava's. At least Josh got his revenge and got to hose them down. And I got to justify buying the damaged plants. These plants are all from Josh. There are are actually about twice this many plants. There were multiples of many of them. THANK YOU !!!!