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    Dang wish i had time to wash my peat moss. not easy when I'm going thru a bale every
    3 weeks or so i would never get anything else accomplished
    Every seed that you plant ,doesn't sprout.
    Every seed that sprouts, doesn't make it to maturity.
    Every cutting that you stick doesn't grow roots.
    Every cutting that roots doesn't grow to a small plant.
    Every small plant doesn't reach maturity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by flytraplady5 View Post
    Dang wish i had time to wash my peat moss. not easy when I'm going thru a bale every
    3 weeks or so i would never get anything else accomplished
    That is why the peat I got is so dirty.. you have used up all the good one.... JK

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    Hey!! you live closer to canada than i do. some of the good stuff has to come
    to PA too
    Every seed that you plant ,doesn't sprout.
    Every seed that sprouts, doesn't make it to maturity.
    Every cutting that you stick doesn't grow roots.
    Every cutting that roots doesn't grow to a small plant.
    Every small plant doesn't reach maturity.


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    For what it's worth,
    peat moss used to be a wonderful, fluffy & very fiberous media that was very clean of sticks, stones, sand, dirt & visible plant parts & roots. A bale used to be 4 cu. ft (not 3.8 as it is now, like a half-gallon of ice cream that is no longer a half-gallon!) & weighed a ton, as it was so compressed into a bale that it felt nearly solid! (I used to sell it back in my early teens, and one bale lasted forever! And that was using it to mix up media to plant dozens of plants every day, for a small old-fashioned plant shop.)

    About 12-15+ years ago (or so), the peat industry began to worry about making more money, depleting their resources, destroying the land, etc. and so the quality took a few steps downward, and over time eventually came to what we have today.

    Not only was a bale of peat clean and fibered, it was packed so tightly, it nearly exploded out when you cut the bale open! Large hunks would break away, & when broken up it would easily double in size.
    I used to buy Sunshine brand (along with a couple others), which used to be one of the higher grades, only found in nurseries. (It was more expensive, but worth it!)
    Then quality dropped a few times over a number of years & it could eventually be found all over. But by then it wasn't packed tight at all, quality was poorer and it regularly contained sticks and powdered clumps.
    (The powdery stuff that seems to be standard now, wasn't even to be found except in small remnant quantities. Freaked me out when I first encountered it in large quantity, being sold as peat! Disgusting!) Peat is a fiberous material, NOT dust!

    I have since tried nearly every brand available locally, & they are all like this in varying degrees.
    Indeed, most people today don't realize what good quality peat is! And sad to say, it is something most people have never seen (or felt!), and likely never will again.
    While there are currently semi-decent "premium" types/brands around compared to the really poor "garbage" that is also being sold, I have not seen really good high quality peat for sale in many years. Even the "premium" type (which is what I normally get) is a far cry from what used to be available. But indeed, as was suggested, don't bother buying the "garbage" quality stuff. It isn't worth the money at all, and once you remove all the sticks and garbage and dust, you won't have much left!

    I occasionally rinse the peat I am using, but it especially depends on what I will be using it for.

    Oh yea, while it may be a waste to see people using peat in their gardens & such, however it wouldn't be as cheap as it is, if it were only sold to CP & orchid growers! The peat business would have "dried up" (so to speak) years & years ago, had it not been for their ability to make a quick buck marketing to all the nurseries and garden centers for landscape use. (While it is bad for the peat bogs, it has been good for the hobbyists.)

    In fact in some places, peat has been used as a source of energy, by burning it! So really compared to that, using it to grow plants better isn't that bad!

    Good growing all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrowinOld View Post
    (The powdery stuff that seems to be standard now, wasn't even to be found except in small remnant quantities. Freaked me out when I first encountered it in large quantity, being sold as peat! Disgusting!) Peat is a fiberous material, NOT dust!
    That powdered junky stuff is 2/3 of the total peat in the 1 cu that I have purchased... It falls straight to the bottom of the bucket when in water. The part that floats is fibrous and light-colored. It actually looks rather pretty.


    While there are currently semi-decent "premium" types/brands around compared to the really poor "garbage" that is also being sold, I have not seen really good high quality peat for sale in many years. Even the "premium" type (which is what I normally get) is a far cry from what used to be available. But indeed, as was suggested, don't bother buying the "garbage" quality stuff. It isn't worth the money at all, and once you remove all the sticks and garbage and dust, you won't have much left!
    I have purchased 1cu of that peat for 6.99. Prior to that I have purchased Hoffman 10qt Peat Moss bag for the same price plus shipping. And that moss was also not the greatest quality. That 10qt bag (which is 1/3 of 1cu) when washed and all the dusty and chunky stuff was removed was reduced to half its size ...

    So what brand of Peat moss in your experience has the best quality these days?
    Have you tried alternative substrate (coconut husk i think was mentioned here previously)?

    Thank you!

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    Lol let necro-threading commence

    Anyway just wanted to mention something interesting IMO.
    One week ago I purchased some Canadian "premier" moss from Lowes (not the one that shows up in their online catalog). It was a different brand than the one purchased last year from a nursery near work.

    Well I subjected it to the usual procedure: filled the 5g bucket half way, added tap water to the brim and let stay for a week. Yesterday was the time to collect the top floating "good" layer of peat and wash it several times with RO water.
    Well I was very surprised to see that that floating top layer was very thin and mostly contained twigs, dry grass, tree leaves and other junk. Hardly any peat in it at all. And the bottom layer was very thick. It contained very very fine particles of peat, sand and looked like mud (I don't use that layer because it tends to make an easily compacting soil even with bunch coarse sand added, learned the hard way).

    Can't believe I was complaining about previously bought brand of peat, which formed a very nice light brown colored layer of peat when washed. Ehh....
    Last edited by gill_za; 03-19-2012 at 01:15 PM.

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    Huh... when I was my peat- ALL of it sinks. Only the twigs float to the surface...

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    In my experience the only portion of peat that sinks after some time in water is made up of very fine peat particles. If I try using it for CP's (peat:sand) the soil absorbs too much water, becomes too wet and does not drain at all. After a while if left alone that portion of the peat also starts to smell like rotten eggs.

    http://www.growsundews.com/rinsing_p...us_plants.html

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