thanks for that info tom,do you know if that is the same as rebbecca soper,it grows great while others struggle,like grows 2 pitchers at once,i got it for £3.99 at a garden center just up the road from my house ,it was labeled up venus fly trap or something equally dumb,now i finally worked out how to post pics i will keep this thread updated,thanks for looking,don 't think i will use a slideshow again its crap,thought i had reinvented the wheel for a short minute